Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-de01.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 75F6438000095; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 18:14:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1RNuqs-0007gP-GJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 08 Nov 2011 23:13:10 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1RNuqr-0007gG-Vu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 08 Nov 2011 23:13:09 +0000 Received: from imr-db01.mx.aol.com ([205.188.91.95]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1RNuqp-00034c-Gd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 08 Nov 2011 23:13:09 +0000 Received: from mtaout-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.65]) by imr-db01.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id pA8NCvsO005188 for ; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 18:12:57 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.68] (host-92-6-234-147.as43234.net [92.6.234.147]) by mtaout-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPA id 69D50E00013B for ; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 18:12:56 -0500 (EST) From: g4gvw To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <009e01cc9e68$ed127920$4001a8c0@lark> References: <009e01cc9e68$ed127920$4001a8c0@lark> Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2011 23:12:53 +0000 Message-ID: <1320793973.4058.9.camel@pat-compaq-evo> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.30.3 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1320793977; bh=NwANiAowrhTs9fzQZ3Q4fc08LZmBDvf2p+1nIDCIZFg=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=M7/ZmOtljfCPMDlMqr1A/8kZZ0iyphQiUwJ7unMIn2zcqmHoTeP4AHxqh+5qVVJpb Zypq+xce2cFw/GFGlpPJK1dABMRdZMe/FFfEKoebJ+OGuCH5RKrvQFgY2VzZTn+7CF NL2jRWbWi2IDYy3e64XqTZHD5GSQviJ7j7rVXdaI= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:425097536:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Radio 4 Long Wave to close.... 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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:443181440:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d288.1 ; domain : mx.aol.com DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40c94eb9b7cb2cc8 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Hi All, If a valve (tube) is capable of lasting 10 years in service it doesn't seem to this simple mind beyond the wit of man to manufacture a few extra spares to keep the station going for many years yet using the other major components - which is where the major part of the capital is invested ! I suspect that Alan may be right in that another agenda is being followed. In any case there is surely a conservation case here that is at least as valid as the crazy schemes that get public funds for the preservation of (largely redundant) places of worship and many (so-called) "ancient monuments"! Where's the Lottery Heritage Funding. This warrants a National Outcry. It's a disgrace! 73 On Tue, 2011-11-08 at 22:35 +0000, Alan Melia wrote: > Hi Warren and Laurence I wonder how they will deal with the contract they > have with NPL to transmit a dirtibution of a standard frequency and time and > utility data! This has 5 years to run I think. The transmitter no longer > belongs to the BBC anyway! It is run by Crown-Castle Comms (last time I had > contact) and probbly owned by them now. Unlike Orfordness it is probably a > desirable development site for domestic housing....if there was any market ! > > I might email my contact at NPL and see what he says. > Alan > G3NYK > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Warren Ziegler" > To: > Cc: > Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 8:44 PM > Subject: Re: LF: Radio 4 Long Wave to close.... (soon?) > > > Laurence, > Its a pity that Droitwich is closing down. > > The accompanying article is filled with factual misstatements, I don't > know whether that is due to ignorance or a desire to mislead: > " 500 kilowatts of power, far more - according to the BBC - than other > long wave transmitters, which makes the kit both unique and expensive. > " > Actually this is less than other longwave transmitters such as > Europe 1! And it is not unique! > > "Whenever the valves fail a dangerous "arc of power" surges through > the 700ft Droitwich transmission masts." > ???? What does that mean? > > "Building a new long-wave transmitter for Radio 4 would cost "many > millions of pounds" > Many millions ? I doubt that they sought a quote! > > Even the Director of Radio 4 seems to have been appointed with the > intention of shutting it down as opposed to running it as an ongoing > operation. > > 73 Warren K2ORS > > > On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 3:09 PM, Laurence KL7UK > wrote: > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/oct/09/bbc-radio4-long-wave-goodbye > > > > Apologies if this is old news - but it takes time for the messenger > pidgeons > > to reach Okie > > > > > > Laurence KL7UK remote 5 > > > > > -- 73 es gd dx de pat g4gvw qth nr felixstowe uk (east coast, county of suffolk)