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(VPS 111120-0, 20/11/2011), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: T/A Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:475993408:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m021.1 ; domain : btinternet.com DKIM : fail x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d608b4ec900af45f0 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Hi Jay and Stefan, nice plot Jay Yes you will get a signals at later than local dawn at the tx. The signal should propagate provided the 1st hop point (~ 1200km west ) is in darkness at about 90km altitude. As a bonus you often get a short "enhanced" period at this time. I think that is caused by the local dawn at the TX end suppressing the higher hop modes as the D-layer starts to form. I have seen signal from Joe VO1NA which actually crossed in one hop, rather than the normal 2 hops. The shadow at 90km was at mid-Atlantic at the time. the strength wasn't as good as the best full darkness path signals but it popped up fully readable for about 15 to 20 mins. Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 11:47 AM Subject: LF: T/A > Stefan > > Last glimpse of your signal just after 0800Z. Believe your local sunrise to > be 0645Z ... > > Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 >