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From: "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
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Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 22:42:21 +0100
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Subject: Re: LF: Fwd: [SDR-IQ] FCC issues Experimental License Grant WF2XXQ to operate on 130KC and 500KC bands
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Well

Worth  checking :))   ,

The  recent history of  English  words  and  radio  regulations  is  non =
too=20
coherent , with the  un-intended  allocation  of  data  to the  EU and  t=
he=20
accidental   and calamitous  use of the   (... ...)   word ...  anything =
 is=20
possible , the  only  sure thing is the  answer is  =3D 42

Yes   sad point  on the  applied  and  eventual on  air  status ...  not=20
just   confined  to  the  other  side  of  pond either ... reception  and=
=20
transmitting  are  really   two  hobbies, some  times combined, from long=
=20
ago, one memorable  comment  was, '' for every  minuet  you  talking  you=
=20
missing  10  interesting   things  you  could  be  hearing'' kind  of  ma=
kes=20
sense? Ae   wise  , 2  square inches  of  PCB   to  receive   and  a  sma=
ll=20
ranch  to  transmit  may  have  something to  do with  it  on 136 , 500  =
,

Still  a lot  of myths  about  over Ae sizes, the  standard  marine  set =
 up=20
was not  much  more than   30  to  40  feet  of   wire  from  the  roof o=
f=20
the  radio  room to  the  top  'T'    wire ..  ok the  boat  and  the  se=
a=20
helped, a  fan  vertical feed  and  the  funnel woks  nicely   for the=20
'gray  line'    but  you  can see  the  point , these  are not 'big'  arr=
ays=20
?

73 -G..

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From: "Warren Ziegler" <wd2xgj@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 3:20 PM
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Subject: Re: LF: Fwd: [SDR-IQ] FCC issues Experimental License Grant WF2X=
XQ=20
to operate on 130KC and 500KC bands

>
> Graham, Stefan,
>
>       The license does state that the operator must stay within band
> limits despite the 95% frequency tolerance (which is an obvious
> error).
> As for the phrase 'amateurs in Miami Florida' he is referring to
> himself and a friend who is helping him out with the antenna - not ALL
> amateurs in Florida!
> It is very common for hams here to use the phrase "VLF" to refer to
> EVERYTHING below the medium wave broadcast band.
> Many times I have been asked about my "VLF" operation and it turns out
> the person wanted to know about my 500kHz activity!
> In fact if you look at the  WSPR.ORG website 500kHz is listed under=20
> "LF/VLF"!
>
> Juan has been actively reporting reception of 500kHz stations in the
> US so I am hopeful that he is serious and will get on the air.
> There have been any number of others who have applied for and been
> issued a license and never got on the air for one reason or another.
>
>
> --=20
> 73 Warren K2ORS
>                 WD2XGJ
>                 WD2XSH/23
>                 WE2XEB/2
>                 WE2XGR/1
>
>
> 2011/10/17 Stefan Sch=E4fer <Stefan.Schaefer@iup.uni-heidelberg.de>:
>> Hi John,
>>
>> Interesting. That mail was written as if operation below 1.8 MHz would=
 be=20
>> a
>> totally new thing :-)
>>
>> Do you know if it is actually 130 kHz or will they get the same range =
as=20
>> we
>> all have?
>>
>>
>> From: "juangranados@bellsouth.net" <juangranados@bellsouth.net>
>> Date: 16 October 2011 13:22:04 CEST
>> To: SDR-IQ@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: [SDR-IQ] FCC issues Experimental License Grant WF2XXQ to oper=
ate=20
>> on
>> 130KC and 500KC bands
>> Reply-To: SDR-IQ@yahoogroups.com
>>
>> 10.15.2011 - FCC issues Experimental License Grant WF2XXQ to operate o=
n=20
>> the
>> 130KC and 500KC bands to Licensed Radio Amateur Juan A. Granados /K4LC=
D
>> until 10.01.2016.
>>
>> As part of our VLF - Very Low Frequency amateur radio experiment, on
>> September 6, 2011 we submitted an application for an Experimental Lice=
nse=20
>> to
>> operate within certain parameters in the 130KHz and 500KHz bands.
>>
>> 130 kHz =3D VLF???
>> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19882028/spectrumusage.jpg
>>
>> 73, Stefan7DK7FC
>>
>
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