Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mc03.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id E4230380001F0; Mon, 17 Oct 2011 10:22:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1RFo3t-00081Z-5z for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 17 Oct 2011 15:21:05 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1RFo3s-00081Q-OD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 17 Oct 2011 15:21:04 +0100 Received: from mail-qw0-f43.google.com ([209.85.216.43]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1RFo3p-0002rD-Ol for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 17 Oct 2011 15:21:04 +0100 Received: by qabg14 with SMTP id g14so3114937qab.16 for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2011 07:20:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=lEtTtRVGHfyZwymECuarE+5Pq6AjVB0WlCN625sqUcY=; b=AlBASwouuARJgzKG0zqt+W1PMsJFVzLJmzqhtiPcCdbakcTETp3dm38lq0lzip/xDe 0bc6HyJ/TqP7o3gZLiErh6QZBHhrvvrncIcRSxljAGlxPCwKtAOK9zrNyA3xhxBlCzw7 TNzokIHvngUbzF+05s23VDENDnaOr5XUIir/Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.36.166 with SMTP id r6mr38589533pbj.77.1318861255410; Mon, 17 Oct 2011 07:20:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.40.137 with HTTP; Mon, 17 Oct 2011 07:20:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4E9C2B75.8050509@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> References: <4E9C2B75.8050509@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 10:20:55 -0400 Message-ID: From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Fwd: [SDR-IQ] FCC issues Experimental License Grant WF2XXQ to operate on 130KC and 500KC bands Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:468917920:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m023.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d604b4e9c3a33014d X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Graham, Stefan, The license does state that the operator must stay within band limits despite the 95% frequency tolerance (which is an obvious error). As for the phrase 'amateurs in Miami Florida' he is referring to himself and a friend who is helping him out with the antenna - not ALL amateurs in Florida! It is very common for hams here to use the phrase "VLF" to refer to EVERYTHING below the medium wave broadcast band. Many times I have been asked about my "VLF" operation and it turns out the person wanted to know about my 500kHz activity! In fact if you look at the WSPR.ORG website 500kHz is listed under "LF/VLF= "! Juan has been actively reporting reception of 500kHz stations in the US so I am hopeful that he is serious and will get on the air. There have been any number of others who have applied for and been issued a license and never got on the air for one reason or another. --=20 73 Warren K2ORS =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 WD2XGJ =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 WD2XSH/23 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 WE2XEB/2 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 WE2XGR/1 2011/10/17 Stefan Sch=E4fer : > Hi John, > > Interesting. That mail was written as if operation below 1.8 MHz would be= a > totally new thing :-) > > Do you know if it is actually 130 kHz or will they get the same range as = we > all have? > > > From: "juangranados@bellsouth.net" > Date: 16 October 2011 13:22:04 CEST > To: SDR-IQ@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [SDR-IQ] FCC issues Experimental License Grant WF2XXQ to operate= on > 130KC and 500KC bands > Reply-To: SDR-IQ@yahoogroups.com > > 10.15.2011 - FCC issues Experimental License Grant WF2XXQ to operate on t= he > 130KC and 500KC bands to Licensed Radio Amateur Juan A. Granados /K4LCD > until 10.01.2016. > > As part of our VLF - Very Low Frequency amateur radio experiment, on > September 6, 2011 we submitted an application for an Experimental License= to > operate within certain parameters in the 130KHz and 500KHz bands. > > 130 kHz =3D VLF??? > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19882028/spectrumusage.jpg > > 73, Stefan7DK7FC >