Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-da04.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 3D9B93800008A; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 17:28:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1RDNOF-00006E-RP for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 22:28:03 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1RDNOF-000065-DK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 22:28:03 +0100 Received: from blu0-omc1-s23.blu0.hotmail.com ([65.55.116.34]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1RDNOD-0006OP-Qp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 22:28:03 +0100 Received: from BLU153-W59 ([65.55.116.8]) by blu0-omc1-s23.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 10 Oct 2011 14:27:55 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [138.32.32.166] From: Laurence KL7UK To: Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 13:27:54 -0800 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <4E934CE4.7090606@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> References: <20111010.114840.1660.0.riese-k3djc@juno.com> <008701cc876a$9d6ab140$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <4E934AC0.8050501@iup.uni-heidelberg.de>,<4E934CE4.7090606@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Oct 2011 21:27:55.0673 (UTC) FILETIME=[79963090:01CC8793] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_42be01ff-c6da-433e-95ee-4f5f22210ff3_" Subject: LF: Hummm.... X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:438652576:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d404c4e93638f5a9c X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none --_42be01ff-c6da-433e-95ee-4f5f22210ff3_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable One of the surprising things about the heavily indistrial and compact Islan= d of Singapore was the lack of Hum at VLF - even in the middle of the city = in some of the Greener areas VLF reception was really very good with only m= ild Humm=2C even surrounded by building. Again most of the power was under= ground=2C the water table was very close to the surface and most of the hig= h rise HDB buildings were off Faraday cage type with Earthed rebar. Guess i= t all added up to an effective screen. =20 If I compare that with here in Oklahoma where Ive yet to find a location (e= xcept for weak humm in the middle the Tall Grass Praire reservation surroun= ded by Bison) its really noisy at 60Hz here dominated by overhead 60Hz ante= nnae. (Where I live in Alaska is pretty bad too) =20 =20 Laurence KL7UK/5 Northern Okie =20 > Date: Mon=2C 10 Oct 2011 21:52:04 +0200 > From: Stefan.Schaefer@iup.uni-heidelberg.de > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: mains wires >=20 > Ah BTW=2C here all the power distribution up to 20 kV is below the ground= =2C=20 > i.e. in cables=2C since the 60's. Some over-land wires are still existing= =20 > in the country-side though. In Berlin=2C they even use short (some km)=20 > 400kV cables to bring the electricity in the center of the city. In the=20 > cities you don't find any cables at all above ground. >=20 > 73=2C Stefan >=20 = --_42be01ff-c6da-433e-95ee-4f5f22210ff3_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
One of the surprising things about the heavily indistrial and compact Islan= d of Singapore was the lack of Hum at VLF - even in the middle of the city = in some of the Greener areas VLF reception was really very good with only m= ild Humm=2C even surrounded by building.  =3BAgain most of the power wa= s underground=2C the water table was very close to the surface and most of = the high rise HDB buildings were off Faraday cage type with Earthed rebar. = Guess it all added up to an effective screen.
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If I compare that with here in Oklahoma where Ive yet to find a location (e= xcept for weak humm in the middle the Tall Grass Praire reservation surroun= ded by Bison) its really noisy at 60Hz here dominated by overhead 60Hz ante= nnae. (Where I live in Alaska is pretty bad too)
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Laurence KL7UK/5 Northern Okie

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>=3B Date: Mon=2C 10 Oct 2011 21:52:04 +0200
>=3B From: Stefan.Schae= fer@iup.uni-heidelberg.de
>=3B To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>= =3B Subject: Re: LF: mains wires
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>=3B Ah BTW=2C here all th= e power distribution up to 20 kV is below the ground=2C
>=3B i.e. in = cables=2C since the 60's. Some over-land wires are still existing
>= =3B in the country-side though. In Berlin=2C they even use short (some km) =
>=3B 400kV cables to bring the electricity in the center of the city.= In the
>=3B cities you don't find any cables at all above ground.>=3B
>=3B 73=2C Stefan
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