Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mb02.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id D750D380000A1; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 21:10:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1RFFF1-0001DU-Et for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 16 Oct 2011 02:10:15 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1RFFF1-0001DL-1g for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 16 Oct 2011 02:10:15 +0100 Received: from relay.uni-heidelberg.de ([129.206.100.212]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1RFFF0-0002El-Km for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 16 Oct 2011 02:10:15 +0100 Received: from freitag.iup.uni-heidelberg.de (freitag.iup.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.29.204]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id p9G1AEp7024880 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 16 Oct 2011 03:10:14 +0200 Received: from [129.206.22.206] (pc206.iup.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.22.206]) by freitag.iup.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.11.20060308/8.11.2) with ESMTP id p9G1ADP1031444 for ; Sun, 16 Oct 2011 03:10:13 +0200 Message-ID: <4E9A2EC4.20303@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 03:09:24 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Stefan_Sch=E4fer?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <4E997F3C.8090707@gmail.com> <4E99E4EC.9000004@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <4E9A250B.4050609@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4E9A250B.4050609@gmail.com> X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by relay.uni-heidelberg.de id p9G1AEp7024880 X-Spam-Score: 1.4 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD=1.426 Subject: Re: LF: 136.172 khz 15oct11 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:385550304:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d60164e9a2f231b62 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Hi Dex, Am 16.10.2011 02:27, schrieb Dexter McIntyre W4DEX: > I consider myself to have a good basic understanding of electronics=20 > and RF but have to depend on people like you to do the design work. Oh, and i learned a lot from DF6NM or ON7YD (LF pages) or M0BMU or DJ1ZB=20 or G4JNT or DL4YHF.... We are all learning from each other. A good group! > The people on this and other radio groups have helped me=20 > tremendously. If I were forced to name a few it would be W1TAG and W1V= D. > > >> And BTW what is your RX system you use on LF? > > Recently I've been using an Icom R-75 receiver with no added options. =20 > I was considering either adding the high stability oscillator or=20 > locking it to an external timebase. But the receiver has been so=20 > drift free I see no advantage in improving it. I also have a HP-3586B=20 > and a W/G SPM-19. For weak signal LF reception all perform the same. > > Presently I'm down to two LF antennas for receive. The tuned transmit=20 > antenna and a vertical wire of about 20 meter length over a tree=20 > limb. This wire is located close to 200 meters from my house in a=20 > wooded area. The wire is connected to a ground rod through a high to=20 > low impedance transformer. 75 ohm coax brings it to the house where=20 > the coax is isolated with a 1:1 transformer. Seldom can I see any=20 > difference between these two antennas for LF reception. A PA=D8RDT=20 > mini-whip works great for portable use but I can't easily get it above=20 > the large oak trees surrounding my house. Tnx for description. You all seem to have a good location for a RX=20 antenna. Here i am 35m above ground and there are almost no trees but=20 100s of PCs running that building, with their Y caps within the SMPS on=20 the protection earth wire that is unfortunately connected to the=20 lightning arrester wire at some places. Thus i have to go /p for CW DX=20 and think about a link to a forest antenna for the grabber... > I'm looking forward to seeing a signal from that new coil! Me too :-) The wire is alredy in the post and will arrive here on=20 tuesday i think. Will take just some few days then ;-) 73, Stefan/DK7FC