Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mh02.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 16E7238000197; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 03:08:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1REbrc-0003s1-KE for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 08:07:28 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1REbrb-0003rs-Ut for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 08:07:27 +0100 Received: from relay.uni-heidelberg.de ([129.206.100.212]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1REbrZ-0005vA-Hn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 08:07:27 +0100 Received: from freitag.iup.uni-heidelberg.de (freitag.iup.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.29.204]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id p9E77OMD009721 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 09:07:24 +0200 Received: from [129.206.22.206] (pc206.iup.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.22.206]) by freitag.iup.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.11.20060308/8.11.2) with ESMTP id p9E77Oup029956 for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 09:07:24 +0200 Message-ID: <4E97DF7C.2070702@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 09:06:36 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Stefan_Sch=E4fer?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <4E9743F9.3060308@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <23760DC5CBCA4D3FB38E915231785C2A@White> In-Reply-To: <23760DC5CBCA4D3FB38E915231785C2A@White> X-Spam-Score: 1.4 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD=1.426 Subject: Re: LF: DK7FC in JA? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------000801080507040200040703" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:487732416:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d60d64e97e0055fcd X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000801080507040200040703 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by relay.uni-heidelberg.de id p9E77OMD009721 Hi Markus, Yes, very uncertain so far. Anyway i feel that just a few dBs are=20 missed. Well worth to try again this evening. As soon as DCF39 is 35 dB=20 S/N or better in that plot there could be a chance... 73, Stefan Am 14.10.2011 00:54, schrieb Markus Vester: > Hi Stefan, Yas, > I can see what you mean, but I'm really not sure about this one. There=20 > are a few lines in Yas' screenshot, but none matches the Japanese=20 > Loran-C lines, which should be on > 136178.247734 (GRI 9930) > 136175.811870 (GRI 8930) > 136173.212487 (GRI 9930) > 136170.212766 (GRI 8930) > Also some of the brighter parts (eg. at 17:47 and 18:14) seem to=20 > coincide with gaps in Stefan's transmission. > Best wishes, > Markus (DF6NM) > > *From:* Stefan Sch=E4fer > *Sent:* Thursday, October 13, 2011 10:03 PM > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > *Subject:* LF: DK7FC in JA? > > LF, > > Looking on the new EU DX grabber of JA8SCD, at > http://icas.to/argo/eu.htm there are some traces on 136.17208 Hz that > could match with my QRSS-120 transmission. There is some guesswork as > Mal would say but for example the beginning of the C in my call seems t= o > start arround 19:08 UTC there, which matches good to my actual > transmission, as visible here > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19882028/LF/EU60_10042.jpg > ID must be shown in further tests but that makes me optimistic. > Would you agree to my assumption that these traces are mine or is it > just QRM? > > 73, Stefan/DK7FC > --------------000801080507040200040703 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by relay.uni-heidelberg.de id p9E77OMD009721 Hi Markus,

Yes, very uncertain so far. Anyway i feel that just a few dBs are missed. Well worth to try again this evening. As soon as DCF39 is 35 dB S/N or better in that plot there could be a chance...

73, Stefan

Am 14.10.2011 00:54, schrieb Markus Vester:
Hi Stefan, Yas,
=A0
I can see what you mean, but I'm really not sure about this one. There are a few lines in=A0Yas' screenshot, but none matches the Japanese Loran-C lines, which should be on
=A0
136178.247734 (GRI 9930)
136175.811870 (GRI 8930)
136173.212487 (GRI 9930)
136170.212766 (GRI 8930)
=A0
Also some of the brighter parts (e= g. at 17:47 and 18:14)=A0seem to coincide with gaps in Stefan's transmission= .
=A0
Best wishes,
Markus (DF6NM)
=A0

LF,

Looking on the new EU DX grabber of JA8SCD, at
http://= icas.to/argo/eu.htm there are some traces on 136.17208 Hz that
could match with my QRSS-120 transmission. There is some guesswork as Mal would say but for example the beginning of the C in my call seems to
start arround 19:08 UTC there, which matches good to my actual
transmission, as visible here
http://dl.dr= opbox.com/u/19882028/LF/EU60_10042.jpg
ID must be shown in further tests but that makes me optimistic.
Would you agree to my assumption that these traces are mine or is it
just QRM?

73, Stefan/DK7FC

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