Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dk05.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 8F4DC380000D4; Tue, 18 Oct 2011 13:35:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1RGDYK-0005Op-OO for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Oct 2011 18:34:12 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1RGDYK-0005Og-6O for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Oct 2011 18:34:12 +0100 Received: from nm4-vm0.bt.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.146.182.229]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1RGDYJ-0005un-Ls for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Oct 2011 18:34:12 +0100 Received: from [217.146.183.196] by nm4.bt.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Oct 2011 17:34:05 -0000 Received: from [217.146.183.206] by tm2.bt.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Oct 2011 17:34:05 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1004.bt.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Oct 2011 17:34:05 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 849625.83646.bm@omp1004.bt.mail.ukl.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 70930 invoked from network); 18 Oct 2011 17:34:05 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=DKIM-Signature:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MIMEOLE; b=fH/hxNQfvZa5E0v/Y1g/NpNTytDquE3IaYaYU4R/7EDQGXB/096DmdHCfiKbL3pXLy+CvptJEMHgkHj/2OgZ7q8w7h9c5yzIP5iOgoaqftD5JepfIv566Mqs4zIe+tW70m0rJ3dWW9JeJd4k0lOzr5sL6b37TbhQGR1L1covdBY= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btopenworld.com; s=s1024; t=1318959245; bh=n6jCBrRTtD1LeDbsRCiLWVhzt4ZWerY40KrN7oCMNF4=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MIMEOLE; b=iQ9e942wK7mJ1t3gN3jm3fn4FlVwxhHKN7KosxluTL1lp+HXlNjbMwpkTNDqxv3/HH8W+2okJtnmpPGPhctwHofu5Oav72Tw4jLAMcWP/VnEcZGqwIux23WepzvXGjKeN7IX1yvZge6j1NBV9/Bl/mBxrWeU/8LmuX3i7jP6zQQ= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: rYOZ76UVM1mCDDIro0hHAN9LUnobucR9VUazfzDC0g6ylvo .hUu9YK_Eqb3.FkTFJVa7l8XRr4J3kQnUsHIU0SqrVWkKG7uYHJ_R7Xvda4y tHLjkQHIY_SwALI6Eo7bzpmYmMkyaCFTqLWOG47Ut3SfTNHxCVv6hB87fbeg VSdERnB6gYr3HR8.DrFLu16NsCpUxxn4XJ4gTumhkksxOX_3NFqIWv8.afjg X8B97rpN_t1sS9gh7XL3Zr_LcbBcbzdGc9_bIFqPE2xcY6hMltnEoekkXpN0 4Fz4y..MgWSLhbihw3GMnW0_sy38DRTMbUHnERZKNZANaX1gIPdJrQS2yCu2 ZoYdYMdcfbQ8AYTe97Dnz6L8oxZDeelNOTNvNb2q0DA-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: Cxhli3eswBD1ozmtAojhjrja86kWx0Qm9tycD5QR1DKWrOLgjJcXkw-- Received: from JimPC (james.moritz@86.161.94.155 with login) by smtp819.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Oct 2011 17:34:05 +0000 GMT Message-ID: <46DFDA4628A84E3DA2E5C4A96AD081AB@JimPC> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <4E99EA7C.5080200@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <4E9C2CB9.3040303@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <4E9C71B1.9010306@legal-medicine.de> <4E9C74DE.5090407@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <00fc01cc8d21$dc5fba00$4001a8c0@lark> <4E9D9CA9.5050604@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> In-Reply-To: <4E9D9CA9.5050604@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 18:34:08 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18197 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18463 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: 73kHz Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:466824352:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m216.1 ; domain : btopenworld.com DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039ac1db4094e9db8dc2538 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Dear Stefan, LF Group, 73kHz reception was a problem in the UK because of an FSK utility located at Rugby in the middle of the band, which had strong noise sidebands that created QRM across the whole band. It used to shut down for maintenance for an hour or two each month - then there would be a rush of UK stations trying to work each other in CW. It also lead to the funny situation that the UK-only 73kHz signals could often be received better by stations in mainland Europe, and there were quite a few cross-band 73k - 136k QSOs. Radiating a signal on 73k had the same problems as 136k but more so, and corona, melted insulators etc., tended to be rather common! But quite a few stations managed to transmit reasonable signals. Once you managed to radiate a signal, it would go a long way, with extended ground wave range compared to 136k, even with rather low ERP. Some QRSS transatlantic signals were received. I think 73kHz was perhaps the first place QRSS was used, with early experiments between G4JNT and G3PLX. I recall the last 73kHz QSO was between G3XDV and G3LDO, these stations also had the first 2-way QSO on the band. Perversely, the withdrawal of the 73k band happened at about the same time the Rugby FSK utility was decommissioned. Nowadays, this part of the spectrum is remarkably quiet... Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU