Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dd05.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id C4BA238000102; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 05:52:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1RDCVy-0003AW-LN for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 10:51:18 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1RDCVx-0003AN-SP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 10:51:17 +0100 Received: from filter02.i-online.fr ([195.200.78.9]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1RDCVw-0007im-DB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 10:51:17 +0100 Received: from smtp.qtxt.dns-iol.com ([195.200.78.13]) by filter02.i-online.fr (IceWarp 10.2.2) with ESMTP (SSL) id TTI33555 for ; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 11:50:55 +0200 Received: (qmail 15194 invoked by uid 507); 10 Oct 2011 11:51:06 +0200 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.101?) (john.rabson@numeo.fr@217.67.155.178) by smtp.qtxt.dns-iol.com with SMTP; 10 Oct 2011 11:51:06 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) From: John Rabson X-Priority: 3 In-Reply-To: <002101cc872c$6d638050$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 11:51:09 +0200 Message-Id: <4010285C-CD6E-4E21-A56C-23A106D04B1E@numeo.fr> References: <20111009.155855.1944.3.riese-k3djc@juno.com> <002d01cc86eb$6f677730$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <4E92662A.5030406@telus.net> <002101cc872c$6d638050$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: mains wires Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-40-630652811 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:432887776:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40914e92c045378e X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none --Apple-Mail-40-630652811 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On 10 Oct 2011, at 10:19CEST, mal hamilton wrote: > Tnx Scott and others for the info. Your system is more complicated = because of the 117 v and 230v dual supply required. > In the UK there is more conformity to wiring and the plugs are non = reversible into the socket, whereas your 2 blade plug goes in either way = round and no Earth. =20 > In EU their 2 pin plug is also reversible but does have an earth. Plugs and sockets seem to vary from member state to member state. Both 2 pin and 2 pin+earth plugs are available in France. Two pin = sockets are no longer allowed for new installations but both types of = plug will go into a 2 pin+earth socket. The 2 pin plug is reversible = but the 2 pin+earth is not.=20 John F5VLF --Apple-Mail-40-630652811 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

On 10 Oct 2011, at 10:19CEST, mal hamilton wrote:

Tnx Scott and others for the info. Your system is more complicated because of the 117 v and 230v dual supply required.

In the UK there is more conformity to wiring and the plugs are non reversible into the socket, whereas your 2 blade plug goes in either way round and no Earth.

In EU their 2 pin plug is also reversible but does have an earth.

Plugs and sockets seem to vary from member state to member state.

Both 2 pin and 2 pin+earth plugs are available in France. Two pin sockets are no longer allowed for new installations but both types of plug will go into a 2 pin+earth socket. The 2 pin plug is reversible but the 2 pin+earth is not.

John F5VLF

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