Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dl03.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 0F56E38000121; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 11:51:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1RDI7i-0006Qd-Ca for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 16:50:38 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1RDI7h-0006QU-OQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 16:50:37 +0100 Received: from outbound-jn.vgs.untd.com ([64.136.55.20]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1RDI7e-00033T-Dr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 16:50:37 +0100 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=juno.com; s=alpha; t=1318261826; bh=47DEQpj8HBSa+/TImW+5JCeuQeRkm5NMpJWZG3hSuFU=; l=0; h=To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type:From; b=e7oAVPlomPStH79mE5Pla9J3W6D9BK3CFqXQDtuFVeXxPoRCU7oSSC8ELq3c7ltVY vBHCnaJmeu3j8jE6sGMyDeB7vHlY0tl39WFzfXD7vHOvi72U++5E2SPisFvUyP4Wc3 G1y2Txz9zcGBpvqVGVwNABH3h0KT3zy8fIqM2zdw= X-UOL-TAGLINE: true Received: from outbound-jn.vgs.untd.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by m03.vgs.untd.com with SMTP id AABHKGFAWALN82E2 for (sender ); Mon, 10 Oct 2011 08:49:40 -0700 (PDT) X-UNTD-OriginStamp: yokUgcxCbtTP7XLrpefewLPECJ/l6JzwfJ5tASlrBYZQqdFwAwdtxQ== Received: (from riese-k3djc@juno.com) by m03.vgs.untd.com (jqueuemail) id RN9XFRK4; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 08:49:24 PDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 11:15:50 -0400 Message-ID: <20111010.114840.1660.0.riese-k3djc@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 5.0.49 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-8,10-68 From: riese-k3djc@juno.com X-UNTD-BodySize: 2007 X-ContentStamp: 26:13:2150404624 X-MAIL-INFO:4f848159a48da9d0997594fd60bda5f4f424405da1b4c489 X-UNTD-Peer-Info: 127.0.0.1|localhost|outbound-jn.vgs.untd.com|riese-k3djc@juno.com X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: mains wires Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:473852736:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m208.2 ; domain : juno.com DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d4ad14e93149b5021 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none in the US we have a standard of 120/240 with the 120 as the appliance voltage the British and others use 220 for a standard does that mean that 440 is used for the big power draws we would place our clothes dryers on 220 do you have 440 in general use in the home Bob K3DJC On Sun, 09 Oct 2011 22:44:20 -0400 Elton A Sanders writes: > If it was plugged into US 230v both Black and White would be hot. > Mains > feed here is 2 hots and Neutral hot to Neutral 115v hot to hot 230v > > (feed is from a center tapped transformer on the pole). > WB5MMB > > > On Mon, 10 Oct 2011 01:25:02 -0000, mal hamilton wrote: > > Bob > > If you look at a Dentron 2500 amplifier on the cct diagram the > 230v > > mains cable, WHITE wire goes to the ON/OFF switch on amplifier > then > > primary of HT transformer which to me is HOT and BLACK wire goes > > directly to the other side of primary winding, NEUTRAL and GREEN > to > > chassis. > > In the UK the switch is always in the LIVE (hot) wire and NEUTRAL > > direct to the appliance except it happens to be a double switch. > > > > UK appliance BROWN live, BLUE neutral, plus an earth wire (3 wire > > appliance) > > mal/g3kev > > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> > >> Sunday, October 09, 2011 7:48 PM > >> Re: LF: mains wires > >> > >> what I use to keep track > >> > >> Black is hot white is not > >> > >> Bob K3DJC > >> > >> On Sun, 9 Oct 2011 17:09:09 -0000 "mal hamilton" writes: > >> > >>> LF > >>> I have a USA amplifier with 230v input. The mains wires are > >>> BLACK, WHITE, and GREEN > >>> > >>> The cct diagram shows White as the live wire with amplifier > mains > >>> switch in this line, Black goes to the other end directly to > >>> transformer primary > >>> and Green to earth. > >>> but > >>> according to USA info the Black wire should be Live and White > >>> Neutral. > >>> > >>> So beware !!!!!!!!!!!!!! > >>> de g3kev > >> > >> ____________________________________________________________ > > > > ____________________________________________________________ 57-Year-Old Mom Looks 25 Mom Reveals $5 Wrinkle Trick That Has Angered Doctors! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4e931414668c54808em03vuc