Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dl06.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 2E5273800008A; Wed, 5 Oct 2011 18:44:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1RBaBh-0006h9-PY for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2011 23:43:41 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1RBaBh-0006h0-6B for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2011 23:43:41 +0100 Received: from nm3.bt.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.146.183.201]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1RBaBf-0007iY-ID for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2011 23:43:41 +0100 Received: from [217.146.183.195] by nm3.bt.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Oct 2011 22:43:33 -0000 Received: from [217.146.183.206] by tm1.bt.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Oct 2011 22:43:33 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1004.bt.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Oct 2011 22:43:33 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 492925.19498.bm@omp1004.bt.mail.ukl.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 30620 invoked from network); 5 Oct 2011 22:43:33 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=DKIM-Signature:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:X-Antivirus:X-Antivirus-Status; b=UGhOoqDrCZYQQo2zHsq/q8R0pRTIb/9+GsPtLb5IQh1hkdGlEJEcuMSPa70uOioc4Uu4/Q71hvp2J12Sh860ae7j4kSrxAZIv5dHwtU9cLB6/J0AyCtPOXNOQtG7fCG/jYjrR57RtyiVHK6ztT+Psp8PhNLuosDFud1Qz3Dj7jw= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=s1024; t=1317854613; bh=ZZnXIkwHmzW3b9JukhJ5IKtYGERbHwhBdy5c814fRbo=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:X-Antivirus:X-Antivirus-Status; b=CLBC/SJp7hZXDtk8Ozt9JTnJl/E8urdLfpV5G8p4qmJmZIXn6MEEAkgrOVYTLQfvY98yFLSTMdVcg/jGEPpdS+cC4tKWWpoOU7GGjnf3kuJRLyJR4NIuSPaWgPD5q0uF9b9Dp0GDYKBQ/7vwPZ6T7QSBtOGZWKbjgr1aeQkusZ4= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: wN.4sNoVM1moqpKI7s3Z.ckFBwPpnTQYSqTukLhvZlJTB7W GPWi8qF8Bf_a7O4wtS8S_PjvESgEskT9__w0G5y03._i_5QRCRwLcbG9c0wi YulMtPHUtzbdHvXgo5Mw.YYD197nlOyTUMmwXLK6_aavMXfrHyASPDD6Zn.5 rH3R3xPvPJI32Ze0HfCWyCsnWD_IEn3qFJcm2GeI2N4pJPAagU8N3Qbk5kY9 W.CcUH0pmh7GyqP0IaCd3CwLUpflqRzTy4RCguDKsbedA9Fz8FBqcI_wmfVE Agt7_x6wLdxxNVxlkqTDoz3VGfxgoaAtr19CPYYJf0_BTBVER4fmR.hyrkQy J13W.5Z4Ade1QyU.pwstRdFXYPUN74cIacLmCm5bOGvYRb5YqMbAngWKBpTv FHSsAetCV X-Yahoo-SMTP: fpz.2VeswBBs59bVshRPmMN51lcO2lgFRIvE4XTqE8dRwOxd70E- Received: from lark (alan.melia@109.153.187.2 with login) by smtp824.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 05 Oct 2011 22:43:33 +0000 GMT Message-ID: <012301cc83b0$35e47870$4001a8c0@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <00d101cc8385$36ca2c10$4001a8c0@lark> <4E8C98B7.3080702@g3ysx.org.uk> <00f601cc838d$9d0ca220$4001a8c0@lark> <1D7EC1B547A24BBD8C3F92435D360B38@AGB> Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 23:38:22 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.2001 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.2001 X-Antivirus: avast! 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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:490636992:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d022.2 ; domain : btinternet.com DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d4ad44e8cdde374d7 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Hi Graham yes I know smallish aerials can be made to work with modern modes but you and Gary have worked quite hard at it.....and you do get a lot of RF floating around the house when you have it near at hand :-)) Alan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 8:39 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: RSGB Convention MF side looks a bit thin ?? > Yes happy days , but then that's the problem with the image from > lower down hi . but as many EU and other , now have a 500 > allocation , its not quite the outside event it once may of been . > > Ae wise , well that's debatable , I'v had good results from the top > loaded 30 ft inverted L , in a 40 x 20 ft back garden , ok not > quite as good as the 750 ft wire at FPR (now down, only the 600 ft > delta loop left) but quite acceptable , perhaps aided by 'data > processing' but +3 dB on a 300 watt amp is quite a few amps ! , > perhaps a little more green and safer to slow the data rate .. ! > > As for 136 , Gary seems to make good progress with the top loaded > vert , once again a small plot Ae ........ > > Fully understand the 'need to beep' of those who did or can , but each > to his own , > > G.. > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Alan Melia" > Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 7:27 PM > To: > Subject: Re: LF: Re: RSGB Convention MF side looks a bit thin ?? > > > > > Here again it requires someone to run it. In the old days at the Beaumont > > there used to be an LF "workshop" John Gould was an enthusiastic chairman > > of the LF stream, but he has be clobbered with many more jobs these days. > > Also because LF is basically homebrew equipment we had displays. I think > > the > > main event has to be tailored to get a good attendance (to pay for the > > place) But the odd LF event has introduced new people to "our" side of the > > hobby. Unfortunately 2 out of three always seemed to be flat dwellers of > > had > > no garden of any size, and were put off by the size of the aerials. :-)) > > If > > Dave gets a good attendance maybe it will revive. > > > > Alan > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Graham" > > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 7:01 PM > > Subject: Re: LF: Re: RSGB Convention MF side looks a bit thin ?? > > > > > >> Probably not , but fringe activity's do provide > >> a little Variety : e.g. > >> > >> A QRSS university some how may not have > >> 'quite' the same appeal, but has the same > >> aim ? > >> > >> G.. > >> > >> -------------------------------------------------- > >> From: "Stewart Bryant" > >> Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 6:49 PM > >> To: > >> Cc: "Alan Melia" > >> Subject: Re: LF: Re: RSGB Convention MF side looks a bit thin ?? > >> > >> > > >> > > >> > Is there any interest in a microwave round table style event > >> > on LF/MF? > >> > > >> > - Stewart/G3YSX > >> > > >> > On 05/10/2011 18:33, Alan Melia wrote: > >> >> I think it's like all these things Graham......it depends what papers > > are > >> >> offered. If no-one offers any lectures you dont get a stream. > >> >> > >> >> Alan > >> >> > >> >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> >> From: "Graham" > >> >> To: > >> >> Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 5:30 PM > >> >> Subject: LF: RSGB Convention MF side looks a bit thin ?? > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> RSGB Convention MF side looks a bit thin ?? Is there a real > > HF/ > >> >> MF/LF convention anywhere ?? > >> >> > >> >> Dave's 45 min slot on the Sunday looks to be 'it' ? > >> >> > >> >> Don't mind mini-waves ... just a bit like being at work over > >> >> the > >> >> weekend .. ! > >> >> > >> >> G.. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > >