Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-me06.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 7A32538000087; Thu, 6 Oct 2011 04:01:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1RBisx-0008QM-FD for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Oct 2011 09:00:55 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1RBisw-0008QD-SG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Oct 2011 09:00:54 +0100 Received: from out1.ip04ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.240]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1RBisu-0002XZ-2i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Oct 2011 09:00:54 +0100 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhgCAM9fjU5cF/cg/2dsb2JhbABEhHSUFQoPjwaBBoFOBQEBBAEIAQEDFiYNAg8XBgEBAwUCAQMRBAEBAQICBSECAhQBBBoGFggGEwoBAgIBAQuHYgKlApE5gS2Ea4EUBKU0 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.68,495,1312153200"; d="scan'208";a="348062143" Received: from host-92-23-247-32.as13285.net (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([92.23.247.32]) by out1.ip04ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 06 Oct 2011 09:00:45 +0100 Message-ID: <002901cc83fe$08ba4a20$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <00d101cc8385$36ca2c10$4001a8c0@lark> <96322D70F9974098BE3BAD32EC55648F@AGB> <1317850793.4144.27.camel@pat-compaq-evo> <000d01cc83aa$41c1ca40$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <1317857588.4715.4.camel@pat-compaq-evo> Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 08:00:36 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: RSGB Convention MF side looks a bit thin ?? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:475020960:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d608e4e8d606f4c5d X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none You pretend sometimes to disagree to provoke an argument, which is good, it winds others UP, then they settle down and Agree!! I forgot to mention the Appliance Operators sidekick, Beacon Bandslip Operator (BBO) churning out endless repeative call and locator and qsl via the web. Amateur radio sport is now ahead of clay pigeon shooting !!!! I am now running for shelter !! g3kev ----- Original Message ----- From: "g4gvw" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 11:33 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: RSGB Convention MF side looks a bit thin ?? > Ahh! Well, Mal but we still differ! I prefer the term Radio > Experimenter. "Operation" is an experimental science too! > > 73 > > > On Wed, 2011-10-05 at 21:55 +0000, mal hamilton wrote: > > Everyone agrees with me sooner or later, it's just some are slower than > > others to admit it !! > > Maybe there ought to be two conventions, one for Radio Operators and one for > > Appliance Operators. > > G3KEV > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "g4gvw" > > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 9:39 PM > > Subject: Re: LF: Re: RSGB Convention MF side looks a bit thin ?? > > > > > > > Actually Andy, I've just had an exchange of emails with my mate Alan > > > 3nyk (near neighbour) in which I have mooted the idea that maybe now is > > > the time for a realignment of the Royal Surrey Gas Board. Membership is > > > falling, my guess is that this is proportionate to 'genuine' amateur > > > activity and that a realignment into organisations, some of which might > > > be absorbed or merged into other technical or scientific bodies. This > > > might seem sacraligeous (gosh, can't even spell the word) to some but I > > > cannot feel that experimental and developmental aspects are best served > > > by the status quo! > > > > > > Having had to deal with the "powers that be" in a professional context, > > > I cannot believe they are, any more, convinced that "QSL Card Bashing" > > > is any more than a sport carried out by "appliance operators" (see, I'm > > > not always at loggerheads with Mal hi.) The modern "appliance" radio > > > rarely requires a huge amount of "self-training". Those ops who don't > > > have the technical "nous" to adapt to modes and frequencies that cannot > > > be bought "off the shelf" tend to be just what Mal calls "appliance > > > operators". > > > > > > Ok I'm now an "old fogey" but I'd far rather count frequency than > > > countries and squares (been there, done that). > > > > > > I bet that if Maxwell were still around today, he'd have had a callsign! > > > > > > But, he wouldn't have been chasing squares! > > > > > > > > > 73 > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 2011-10-05 at 21:19 +0100, Andy Talbot wrote: > > > > A few years ago, the convention and all RSGB activity was so HF > > > > orientated us technolgists and microwavers were alienated. At long > > > > last everything has been equalised and the conventions merged, so > > > > technology and techniques for the whole spectrum can be covered for > > > > all. > > > > > > > > Did anyone offer any LF / MF talks ? > > > > > > > > Andy > > > > www.g4jnt.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 5 October 2011 18:56, Graham wrote: > > > > True but looks like the fast-food gang are slowly > > > > taking over !..An Inevitability of combining the HF > > > > and VHF shows I suppose.. > > > > > > > > Coupled to a lack of solar activity that depressed > > > > the HF band occupancy .. > > > > > > > > G.. > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > > From: "Alan Melia" > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 6:33 PM > > > > To: > > > > Subject: LF: Re: RSGB Convention MF side looks a bit > > > > thin ?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think it's like all these things Graham......it > > > > depends what papers are > > > > offered. If no-one offers any lectures you dont get a > > > > stream. > > > > > > > > Alan > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham" > > > > > > > > To: > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 5:30 PM > > > > Subject: LF: RSGB Convention MF side looks a bit > > > > thin ?? > > > > > > > > > > > > RSGB Convention MF side looks a bit thin ?? Is > > > > there a real HF/ > > > > MF/LF convention anywhere ?? > > > > > > > > Dave's 45 min slot on the Sunday looks to be > > > > 'it' ? > > > > > > > > Don't mind mini-waves ... just a bit like > > > > being at work over the > > > > weekend .. ! > > > > > > > > G.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > 73 es gd dx de pat g4gvw > > > qth nr felixstowe uk > > > (east coast, county of suffolk) > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > 73 es gd dx de pat g4gvw > qth nr felixstowe uk > (east coast, county of suffolk) > >