Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-md03.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 10C34380002DF; Wed, 7 Sep 2011 11:27:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1R1K11-0000gm-5m for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Sep 2011 16:26:15 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1R1K0z-0000gd-Mo for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Sep 2011 16:26:13 +0100 Received: from mail16.primus.ca ([216.254.141.183] helo=mail-08.primus.ca) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1R1K0w-0005gr-Ql for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Sep 2011 16:26:13 +0100 Received: from dyn-dsl-bb-98-124-1-94.nrtco.net ([98.124.1.94] helo=Bigmachine.magma.ca) by mail-08.primus.ca with esmtpa (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1R1K0u-00062K-2C for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Sep 2011 11:26:09 -0400 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2011 11:26:30 -0400 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: Bill de Carle In-Reply-To: <4E6776EC.8090202@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> References: <4E6695F9.8060402@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <4E6727E8.5040508@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <4E676569.5030207@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <4E6776EC.8090202@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Authenticated: ve2iq - dyn-dsl-bb-98-124-1-94.nrtco.net (Bigmachine.magma.ca) [98.124.1.94] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Message-Id: Subject: Re: LF: beaconing to the west II ...and to the east, north and south... Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:471399552:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d60574e678d6843d5 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Hi Stefan: I think I know how to configure clipping in SL (done it before) but by all means send me your usr - can only be helpful. I've had good results with software clipping when I recorded the raw digitized data first then decided where/how clipping should occur after looking at it. Too hard to predict optimum clipping settings for a long overnight run. I didn't try recording last night: SL probably records incoming soundcard data before its internal sample rate correction is applied, so that would raise another issue. I suppose I could add a sample rate correction step to the software I use for off-line processing, then we wouldn't need SL at all, hi! Even uncorrected SC sample rate is likely stable enough for QRSS-60 stuff anyway, especially after a short warmup. With the kind of band noise we had last night I don't think clipping would have been beneficial. The Rx here is a TS-850 (master clock derived from GPS std), using CW mode 500-Hz IF filter with audio out at nominally 800-Hz (actually, when the TS-850 is set to receive 136.172 Khz using 1-Hz tuning steps an incoming carrier at that frequency will produce an audio output tone at 799.944 Hz). The external GPS-monitored freq std runs 24/7. Main advantage is a Rx that's instantly on-frequency and doesn't drift even right after turn-on. Last night I had the Rx AGC enabled so lots of compression due to almost continuous static crashes. I leave the RF gain at max when I go to bed because band noise often dies down at some point. I was using a complex FFT with center frequency set to 800 Hz. For some reason SL didn't like it when I tried to enter the more precise frequency and rounded it to nearest Hz. I also have an SDR-IQ here which might be useful at 136 Khz but didn't see your announcement in time. The SDR-IQ isn't locked to an external reference so for long term carrier detection the TS-850 is preferable. I'll run the grabber again tonite. What time will you start Tx? 73, Bill VE2IQ At 09:51 AM 9/7/2011, you wrote: >Hi Bill, again, > >Fine! So you will run the grabber tonite again? Looking forward to that! > >If the noise was "awful" (one can even see a broad band noise during >that time which must be local) and you use no noise reduction so >far, we will surely gain some dB soon :-) > >Yes, the trace was pretty exactly on the QRG and there were no other >traces like that on the whole spectrogram :-) > >About noise reduction: If you want, i can send you a usr file where >you can see how to arrange that if you don't know how. Where does >the AF comes out on your RX (e.g. 137 kHz = 1 kHz) ? What is the RX? >A HF TRX with a SSB filter?