Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-db03.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id D81AD3800018B; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 16:24:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1R6po1-0000hb-UX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 21:23:37 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1R6po0-0000g3-NP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 21:23:36 +0100 Received: from mail-pz0-f45.google.com ([209.85.210.45]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1R6pny-00080v-6f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 21:23:36 +0100 Received: by pzk2 with SMTP id 2so6165574pzk.4 for ; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 13:23:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=2SY5ldq+gc196n7dmGC6mNNQerwa9OFwbFwNEiFyx50=; b=gNYNOl0JNSbXGzrY1LTJeuMqgb/hlIrb4m/goGE2c5fDapB5QKDuX+Dc0cCi5HmXaE cpf706dsKDilmo4zpOOcyPnZeWOLR3PF4ZK+FiPLmupdm6L0SWIiaUkUO5dMQCyGXGra 4MxYnIs8xvrW9a8luCoGbDtF3N3+TbSfauvOg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.4.103 with SMTP id j7mr2126153pbj.13.1316723006868; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 13:23:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.46.136 with HTTP; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 13:23:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <000a01cc7942$09fbef90$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <433A1E6B2B1A4FA895223B81346E0F1C@HughLaptop> Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 16:23:26 -0400 Message-ID: From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Turbine magnets Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:489990208:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d247.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40574e7b99902e8e X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none If these were DC machines and interconnected by high current DC lines one could imagine a substantial magnetic field, but I believe that these machines produce AC either directly or through an inverter. --=20 73 Warren K2ORS =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 WD2XGJ =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 WD2XSH/23 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 WE2XEB/2 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 WE2XGR/1 On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 4:15 PM, Andy Talbot wrote: > Surely if the magnetic field leaked that much, the generators would suffe= r > efficiency. > They are designed as closed magnetic circuits, with all the field lines > closely confined in iron, with small air gaps > > Andy > 'jnt > > > On 22 September 2011 21:07, Hugh M0WYE wrote: >> >> Seems unlikely that the magnetism would reach that far to me - the >> magnetic field would be no different to any other large generating set - >> they are just an ordinary alternator driven through a gearbox. >> If they did affect magnetic compasses you would have thought that the >> place you would really notice it would be around the coast, with small b= oats >> sailing in amongst them. >> Although they look as if they are turning slowly, they can't do many rpm >> before the tips of the blades go supersonic, as the blades are many 10s = of >> metres long. >> Over what distance did you notice the magnetic=A0effect? perhaps I could= get >> down to the ones on Romney Marsh, here in Kent and see if=A0they have an= y >> effect on a compass needle. >> >> The moving blades can affect radio reception for people living nearby, >> although I've not noticed this myself. >> >> 73 >> Hugh M0WYE >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: mal hamilton >> To: rsgb >> Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 5:09 PM >> Subject: LF: Turbine magnets >> Great for LF!!!!!!!!!!!!! >> >> Experience >> >> Driving to Gleneagles in Scotland last weekend my car magnetic compass w= as >> reading backwards and erratic and I wondered why. >> The hills es mountain tops are covered with WIND TURBINES, =A0hugh beast= s >> and only turning slowly, cannot be producing much electric. >> however thinking about it I have concluded that the strong=A0MAGNETS in = the >> turbines=A0must=A0effect a magnetic compass, =A0possible aeroplanes as w= ell except >> they are flying very=A0high, might also have an influence on GPS=A0frequ= encies >> and navigation in these areas >> I must say these hugh Monsters strewn all across the Scottish mountain >> tops and countryside=A0spoils the scenery. >> =A0de Mal/G3KEV >> >