Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id BE5ED38000120; Sun, 4 Sep 2011 10:01:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1R0DFu-0006Ad-5D for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Sep 2011 15:01:02 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1R0DFt-0006AU-L6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Sep 2011 15:01:01 +0100 Received: from mta41.charter.net ([216.33.127.83]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1R0DFr-0000uW-1D for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Sep 2011 15:01:01 +0100 Received: from imp09 ([10.20.200.9]) by mta41.charter.net (InterMail vM.7.09.02.04 201-2219-117-106-20090629) with ESMTP id <20110904140049.NJZ3923.mta41.charter.net@imp09> for ; Sun, 4 Sep 2011 10:00:49 -0400 Received: from [10.0.0.5] ([216.227.8.208]) by imp09 with smtp.charter.net id Ue0n1h0014VJY5k05e0oKg; Sun, 04 Sep 2011 10:00:49 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=L1BYdMBFPEvrb1U4o1gj35Y72n0OWZIL8AeNhXtfs6g= c=1 sm=1 a=t_mkADf7J4EA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=wZtZGKOq+Be8+fprCqqLfw==:17 a=C_IRinGWAAAA:8 a=F3M5lZpKAAAA:8 a=rsIYsMhsAAAA:8 a=Ma4GsSUMrW-hzf7nacMA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=si9q_4b84H0A:10 a=wk6s2zzMB60A:10 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=8mSacttWsTR0ygdBya0A:9 a=FGGMBd6nwRpeCx6W-kAA:7 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=U8Ie8EnqySEA:10 a=wZtZGKOq+Be8+fprCqqLfw==:117 X-Auth-id: dzF0YWdAY2hhcnRlci5uZXQ= References: <77DE9B8329834C6882925783A5F39A72@White> <001b01cc6af5$a8f74190$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> From: John Andrews X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8E501) In-Reply-To: <001b01cc6af5$a8f74190$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> Message-Id: Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 10:00:43 -0400 To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8E501) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Weak signal on 137780.3 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-15--317286376 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:479332832:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d600c4e6384c6582b X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none --Apple-Mail-15--317286376 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Jay, I wondered who the mystery signal was, less than 0.1 Hz below VE3OT, who was= around 780.4. Could just make out the MP ID's.=20 John, W1TAG FN43sv Sent from my iPhone On Sep 4, 2011, at 7:27 AM, wrote: > Markus > =20 > The mystery signal was from WD2XNS ... you have the time and frequency per= fectly correct and the color DF also provides corroborating evidence. Note t= hat there was no break in the transmission. The frequency is controlled by a= GPS disciplined oscillator (accuracy about 13 ppt). Transmitter power was 2= 00 watts ... radiated power is not known. During winter, with frozen ground,= additional radials, lower R and less foliage, the radiated power would have= been about 0.5 watt. Expect last night's test would be at least 3 - 6 dB (m= aybe more) below that level. > =20 > Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 > =20 > =20 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Markus Vester > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2011 4:45 AM > Subject: Re: LF: Weak signal on 137780.3 >=20 > The mystery signal was received between about 0:15 and 3:30 on 137780.310,= with a 3.8 mHz downward shift from about 1:30 to 2:15 - somewhat reminiscen= t of a DFCW "GM". Greenish colour indicates southwesterly origin. The attach= ed screenshot was taken at 8 UT, timescale is 10 minutes per FFT. > =20 > I checked the other available TA grabbers around 4 UT, but no trace of the= mystery signal. > =20 > 73, and have a nice sunday, > Markus (DF6NM) =20 >=20 > From: Markus Vester > Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2011 5:39 AM > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: LF: Weak signal on 137780.3 >=20 > LF, > =20 > there seems to be a signal on 137780.300 Hz, about 60 nV/m here. > http://www.alice-dsl.net/df6nm/grabber/TAnarrow.jpg > =20 > Wondering whose it may be... > =20 > Best wishes, > Markus > =20 > =20 > =20 > =20 --Apple-Mail-15--317286376 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Jay,

I wondere= d who the mystery signal was, less than 0.1 Hz below VE3OT, who was around 7= 80.4. Could just make out the MP ID's. 

John, W= 1TAG
FN43sv

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 4, 201= 1, at 7:27 AM, <jrusgrove@comcas= t.net> wrote:

=
Markus
 
The mystery signal was from WD2XNS ... y= ou have the=20 time and frequency perfectly correct and the color DF also provides=20 corroborating evidence. Note that there was no break in the=20 transmission. The frequency is controlled by a GPS disciplined=20 oscillator (accuracy about 13 ppt). Transmitter power was 200 watts ...= =20 radiated power is not known. During winter, with frozen ground, additio= nal=20 radials, lower R and less foliage, the radiated power would have b= een=20 about 0.5 watt. Expect last night's test would be at least 3 - 6 d= B=20 (maybe more) below that level.
 
Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
 
   
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2011 4:= 45=20 AM
Subject: Re: LF: Weak signal on=20 137780.3

The mystery signal was received betwe= en about=20 0:15 and 3:30 on 137780.310, with a 3.8 mHz downward shift from=20= about 1:30 to 2:15 - somewhat reminiscent of a DFCW "GM". Greenish co= lour=20 indicates southwesterly origin. The attached  screenshot was taken at= 8=20 UT, timescale is 10 minutes per FFT.
 
I checked the other available TA grab= bers around=20 4 UT, but no trace of the mystery signal.
 
73, and have a nice sunday,
Markus (DF6NM)   

Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2011 5:39 AM
Subject: LF: Weak signal on 137780.3

LF,
 
there seems to be a signal on 137780.= 300 Hz,=20 about 60 nV/m here.
 
Wondering whose it may be...
 
Best wishes,
Markus
 
 
 
 
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