Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mc02.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 3A16D3800020F; Tue, 27 Sep 2011 08:33:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1R8Wpg-0003XP-TG for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 27 Sep 2011 13:32:20 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1R8Wpg-0003XG-D8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 27 Sep 2011 13:32:20 +0100 Received: from relay2.uni-heidelberg.de ([129.206.210.211]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1R8Wpf-0003Tw-07 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 27 Sep 2011 13:32:20 +0100 Received: from freitag.iup.uni-heidelberg.de (freitag.iup.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.29.204]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p8RCWHpN029482 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 27 Sep 2011 14:32:18 +0200 Received: from [129.206.22.206] (pc206.iup.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.22.206]) by freitag.iup.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.11.20060308/8.11.2) with ESMTP id p8RCWHu7006228 for ; Tue, 27 Sep 2011 14:32:17 +0200 Message-ID: <4E81C233.2040703@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 14:31:47 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Stefan_Sch=E4fer?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <003201cc7c7b$49b879f0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <4E816F7C.5050407@kpnmail.nl> <4E81B91E.10902@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <000f01cc7d0f$029f7d90$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> In-Reply-To: <000f01cc7d0f$029f7d90$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de id p8RCWHpN029482 X-Spam-Score: 1.4 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD=1.426 Subject: Re: LF: 500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:468236000:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d604a4e81c28e555d X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Ok. Would be interesting about that band. It could be used without a PC,=20 just normal CW like on 160. Even compromise antennas should work=20 reasonably within EU, like on 160 too... In 2007, before i started with kite antennas, i arranged a lazy loop in=20 the forest on that hill where i do the VLF experiments. I took simple=20 mains installation wire (1.5mm^2) and made a loop with 130m=20 circumference. There i run my 600W class E PA on 160 and participated in=20 the RSGB 160m contest. Signals were often 599+60 dB in my 706. I even=20 had QSOs in the CQWW 160m contest to US stations although that antenna=20 actually radiates in very high angles on that frequency. Would be interesting about 500 kHz there... Anyway, i've enoughto do on 137 which is rather a challenge to me now ;-) 73, Stefan Am 27.09.2011 14:14, schrieb mal hamilton: > Stefan > The power limit in the UK is 10w erp. It is not difficult to erect a 1/= 4 > wave inv L antenna. I get vy good results world wide. > de Mal/g3kev > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stefan Sch=E4fer" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 11:53 AM > Subject: Re: LF: 500 > > > =20 >> Hello Walter, >> >> Oh dear, 500 kHz, another project? ;-) >> >> How high do you expect the chance to get an allocation on 500 in >> Germany? And what are the restrictions in UK and EU countries regardin= g >> TX power or ERP? Is there a limit? >> >> Just thinking about a 1/2 wave vertical on 600m ;-) >> >> 73, Stefan/DK7FC >> >> Am 27.09.2011 12:32, schrieb Walter Staubach: >> =20 >>> Jan, you are right. And more is not possible at this moment. We are >>> waiting for the WRC in 2012 and hope for better results. >>> 73 Walter DJ2LF / DI2AG >>> >>> =20 >> =20 > =20