Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-md03.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id E69D0380000AA; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 12:48:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1R78uB-0000MC-9u for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 17:47:15 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1R78uA-0000M3-Rd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 17:47:14 +0100 Received: from relay2.uni-heidelberg.de ([129.206.210.211]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1R78u9-0006QM-DY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 17:47:14 +0100 Received: from freitag.iup.uni-heidelberg.de (freitag.iup.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.29.204]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p8NGlC7Y030017 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 18:47:12 +0200 Received: from [129.206.22.206] (pc206.iup.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.22.206]) by freitag.iup.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.11.20060308/8.11.2) with ESMTP id p8NGlCiw018748 for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 18:47:12 +0200 Message-ID: <4E7CB7F5.5090402@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 18:46:45 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Stefan_Sch=E4fer?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <4E7BB876.2080607@telus.net> <4E7BDC97.5040808@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <4E7BEAB2.4010205@telus.net> In-Reply-To: <4E7BEAB2.4010205@telus.net> X-Spam-Score: 1.4 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD=1.426 Subject: Re: LF: VE7TIL long integration grabber online... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:429788608:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d60574e7cb8610fd4 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Hi Scott, LF, Am 23.09.2011 04:10, schrieb Scott Tilley: > Hi Stefan > > In the past three years since I began prolonged 'low noise' listening > November has traditionally been the beginning of good opportunities > for EU/VE7 DX. However, DCF39 has surprised me this year with decent > showings already! A couple of nights ago it reached audible levels! OK so we will go on trying. But let me stay at QRSS-60 first, until the signal was seen at any active RX station in US/CA (east and middle). IF DCF39 is audible i think it must have about almost 40 dB S/N in a 22 mHz window? And DCF 39 is about 50 dB above a 1 W ERP signal, so not many dBs are missed!?! That sounds as if a "6000-test" must be successful these days, as long as QSB and phase changes are reasonably low!? BTW today i collected a 1.2 m long and 0.3m diameter glass tube (got it for free, it was a rest of a 1.5m 400 EUR tube! ;-) ). This will be for my new loading coil! :-) > I'd tweek out that system of yours and be ready to lobe some RF over > this way as I have a feeling that we may get some good opportunities > this season... Timing is key...! You need to be ahead of the curve > here. And timing is focused on my local sunrise, thus not to complicated. > > My personal goal is to see if it is possible to detect an amateur EU > station in VE7. I have no concerns about the usability of the signal > until we demonstrate that its even possible. Yes, a doubtless detection is always the first goal, just like on VLF. Does not need to be a full call to be received, as VE2IQ luckily got. > > As a suggestion on how to get QRO with 100% keydown, consider using > many smaller stages combined to produce lots of power rather than one > stage pushed to the edge of meltdown. Actually i tried the PA at 1.4 kW key down (longer than all thermal time constants) on a 50 Ohm dummy load and it was not much more than hand warm after the test. The limiting factor is my variometer and the loading coil. I can see the antenna current decreasing a bit during a QRSS-120 dash ;-) I'll wind a new one out of HF litz wire soon. > Since then I've logged hundreds of hours on the same transistors. Oh, on that H bridge PA is already lost about 10 FETs (in contrast to the 120W class E PA) but this is not due to thermal reasons... > Just make sure you use one LO path and only ONE digital division > device to drive the driver ICs. The reason for only one digital > division device is based on the fact a Type D flip flop (or otherwise) > can start in any one of four phases on power up. Understood, yes. Since a few weeks i use a IQ TX-converter that adds SL's 11.172 kHz signal from the soundcard to a 125 kHz LO. That a circuit based on the design of G4JNT. It works excellent and due to locking the LO and soundcard, the signal accuracy seems to be below 1 mHz, apart from some seldom phase glitches (about 1 to 3 per hour). Looking forward to the season. We're in the beginning of that! :-) The detections at W1VD last night were very promising! Best 73, Stefan/DK7FC