Received: from mtain-mk05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-mk05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.97.137]) by imd-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com (Inbound Mail Deferral) with ESMTP id AD7887032A6A4; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 07:47:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mk05.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 61E213800008D; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 07:47:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1R3nuB-0002PQ-G9 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 12:45:27 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1R3nu4-0002Em-5n for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 12:45:20 +0100 Received: from relay.uni-heidelberg.de ([129.206.100.212]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1R3ntv-0001U2-Sp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 12:45:12 +0100 Received: from freitag.iup.uni-heidelberg.de (freitag.iup.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.29.204]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id p8EBjAYQ023996 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 13:45:10 +0200 Received: from [129.206.22.206] (pc206.iup.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.22.206]) by freitag.iup.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.11.20060308/8.11.2) with ESMTP id p8EBjAGO012163 for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 13:45:10 +0200 Message-ID: <4E7093B3.5030807@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 13:44:51 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Stefan_Sch=E4fer?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <4E6F70C2.8090206@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <002e01cc722e$601ff170$4001a8c0@lark> In-Reply-To: <002e01cc722e$601ff170$4001a8c0@lark> X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by relay.uni-heidelberg.de id p8EBjAYQ023996 X-Spam-Score: 1.4 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD=1.426 Subject: Re: LF: Re: low noise and OE5ODL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:516141568:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d61894e70945249d0 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Hi Alan, Thanks for the observations. Am 13.09.2011 18:01, schrieb Alan Melia: > Hi Stefan be careful with you appreciation of good conditions using the > noise leevel!! Have i been talking about good conditions? > The noise usually drops because it is not being propagated so > a low noise condition CAN be a state of poor propagation. Yes, that should be the case now. And this applies for VLF too, at least=20 here in EU the band was very quiet, just like in winther. Also the time=20 window of low QRN is as low as in winther! This may be a disadvantage for DX but on VLF, Ossi's signal has a nice=20 S/N for that antenna current and his non-Kite/ballon supportet antenna. > I think that is > the case at the moment. The CME associated with the X-Class flare pushe= d the > Dst down to -60nT and filled the Ring Current region with charge that w= ill > leak into the ionosphere over the following days. This increases the > night-time absorption and reduces DX signal levels. A demo of this is t= o > look at the levels recorded by Scott VE7TIL for a Russian BC station on > 153kHz. This normally strong signal is depressed by 35 to 40dB at prese= nt. > =20 Yes, also very good visible at http://icas.to/argo/dcf39.htm Hope condx are back soon. When do you expect the conds are back to=20 normality? Best 73, Stefan/DK7FC > Alan G3NYK > http://www.alan.melia.btinternet.co.uk/latest.htm > "almost daily" propagation report for LF. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stefan Sch=E4fer" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 4:03 PM > Subject: LF: low noise and OE5ODL > > > =20 >> LF/VLF, >> >> Very low noise today on LF and VLF. >> >> Ossi/OE5ODL is QRV again, today on 8970.05 Hz, with the characteristic >> drift. A good ID :-) >> >> Just found some time to build a LF preamp for the ferrite antenna. May= be >> someone has fun and time to make some acty on 137.7 in a hour or so? >> Would like to compare signal levels and S/N of both, the 50 Ohm preamp >> and the high-Z preamp in a quiet location. >> >> Screenshots will be posted here... >> >> Best 73, Stefan/DK7FC >> >> PS: Will run a QRSS-3 beacon on 137.730 kHz, using 0 V PA supply volta= ge >> (i.e. no supply). There is a weak signal anyway, just because the FETs >> gets switched! This signal is visible at DF6NM in the QRSS-60 window i= n >> 174 km distance! ;-) >> >> =20 > =20