Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mp01.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id BD243380002C9; Wed, 7 Sep 2011 09:53:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1R1IXh-0007Wz-Pn for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Sep 2011 14:51:53 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1R1IXh-0007Wq-9b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Sep 2011 14:51:53 +0100 Received: from relay.uni-heidelberg.de ([129.206.100.212]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1R1IXg-0000rp-1a for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Sep 2011 14:51:53 +0100 Received: from freitag.iup.uni-heidelberg.de (freitag.iup.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.29.204]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id p87DppFO005415 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 7 Sep 2011 15:51:51 +0200 Received: from [129.206.22.206] (pc206.iup.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.22.206]) by freitag.iup.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.11.20060308/8.11.2) with ESMTP id p87DppoO023127 for ; Wed, 7 Sep 2011 15:51:51 +0200 Message-ID: <4E6776EC.8090202@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2011 15:51:40 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Stefan_Sch=E4fer?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <4E6695F9.8060402@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <4E6727E8.5040508@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <4E676569.5030207@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Score: 1.4 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD=1.426 Subject: Re: LF: beaconing to the west II ...and to the east, north and south... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:488040960:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1dc1454e67774869ad X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Hi Bill, again, Fine! So you will run the grabber tonite again? Looking forward to that! If the noise was "awful" (one can even see a broad band noise during that time which must be local) and you use no noise reduction so far, we will surely gain some dB soon :-) Yes, the trace was pretty exactly on the QRG and there were no other traces like that on the whole spectrogram :-) About noise reduction: If you want, i can send you a usr file where you can see how to arrange that if you don't know how. Where does the AF comes out on your RX (e.g. 137 kHz = 1 kHz) ? What is the RX? A HF TRX with a SSB filter? 73, Stefan Am 07.09.2011 15:02, schrieb Bill de Carle: > Stefan: > > No noise blanking or noise reduction enabled and changed to a slower > scroll rate later. Sound card sample rate was locked to GPS. QRN > last night was pretty awful. Thanks for the tips. Ok on further > tests. Conditions will surely improve as we get more into the fall > season. I'll start earlier in the evening next time. > 73, > Bill VE2IQ > > At 08:36 AM 9/7/2011, Stefan wrote: >> Hello Bill, >> >> This looks very promising to me, although ID is still insecure. >> >> 21 mHz is a good choice but you should have enabled "one pixel per >> FFT bin" in the 1st register card of the spectrum display settings. >> Furthermore the spectrogram should scroll a bit slower, about 10 >> seconds per pixel is best i find. >> Which noise reduction setting did you choose? Any band limiting and >> noise blanking? >> >> All in all i would say that this is my trace since time and frequency >> matches. But we should repeat this once again for beeing sure :-) >> Looking forward to that! >> >> I will TX this night again, unless the rain isn't to strong (have >> replaced that stone pot above the coil since it causes to many >> losses...). >> >> Thanks for watching! Very interesting :-) >> >> 73, Stefan/DK7FC >> >> Am 07.09.2011 14:23, schrieb Bill de Carle: >>> At 04:14 AM 9/7/2011, Stefan wrote: >>>> Hello Bill, >>>> >>>> Fine :-) Can we have a capture showing the trace? What was the time >>>> of the detection? >>>> >>>> 73, Stefan >>>> >>>> Am 07.09.2011 03:23, schrieb Bill de Carle: >>>>> Grabber is on tonight in Ontario Canada. If I stand far back and >>>>> squint I'd say there was a trace (not decodable) on his frequency :-) >>> >>> I should have included a link to the capture. Freq is right but >>> maybe it was some other signal? FFT was 21 mHz per bin and the >>> trace occurred at approx 0055 .. 0110 - Here it is: >>> >>> http://www.nrtco.net/~ve2iq/grabs/capt15.jpg >>> >>> Bill VE2IQ >> >