Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mb02.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id EA988380000B0; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 20:24:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1R6tXr-0000fB-5M for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 01:23:11 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1R6tXq-0000dv-By for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 01:23:10 +0100 Received: from outbound-jn.vgs.untd.com ([64.136.55.20]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1R6tXo-0000ie-55 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 01:23:10 +0100 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=juno.com; s=alpha; t=1316737379; bh=47DEQpj8HBSa+/TImW+5JCeuQeRkm5NMpJWZG3hSuFU=; l=0; h=To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type:From; b=i3iGxA97PzI5VyufDIBZ6fkWK8yMLL3Vlk5dChxjHQIojdD9Emv48z0x12nHPXe5d ls/624+Qhx6iu/FWOewoBmOwRjnuss/IyNt2TXdA+fH32ZWC9lAW+2kskL8PVNuRwl 5CiOs/3vt08ymg9qnjEDydvYoTVCFPRiRq/O/Ipo= X-UOL-TAGLINE: true Received: from outbound-jn.vgs.untd.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by m03.vgs.untd.com with SMTP id AABHHZWLZAAK6EG2 for (sender ); Thu, 22 Sep 2011 17:22:47 -0700 (PDT) X-UNTD-OriginStamp: yokUgcxCbtTP7XLrpefewLPECJ/l6JzwfvWrIH5Xqzf/8EugPwogzA== Received: (from riese-k3djc@juno.com) by m03.vgs.untd.com (jqueuemail) id RMUHMQMX; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 17:22:10 PDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 20:21:48 -0400 Message-ID: <20110922.202149.2700.2.riese-k3djc@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 5.0.49 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0,2,4,6-7,9-12,14,16-20,22-111 From: riese-k3djc@juno.com X-UNTD-BodySize: 3469 X-ContentStamp: 43:21:686292295 X-MAIL-INFO:3f019d10502045b1a0f071706100495019b02dd0d1cd84f1619951897165a1946dc4953540a4f4ddf5543041045049d41910711430f10441558571b979e01101d9 X-UNTD-Peer-Info: 127.0.0.1|localhost|outbound-jn.vgs.untd.com|riese-k3djc@juno.com X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Turbine magnets Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:520064608:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m017.2 ; domain : juno.com DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d60164e7bd1a07782 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none several have been installed locally and one of the electric folk gave a talk at the local radio club,, the speed of the blade tips will run close to 200 Mph thus the issue of birds flying into them. the power in this installation is AC but what I found interesting is the frequency can be matched to the line as the generators spin fast or slow. The housings on top of those towers are the size of an RV and bigger and the 3 installed produce 1 Mw each under good wind takes a good worker 15 minutes to climb them. he said one of the wildlife issues is to look under the installations to find dead birds and the power company will plant a few to make sure the agency is finding them for an accurate count Bob K3DJC On Thu, 22 Sep 2011 16:23:26 -0400 Warren Ziegler writes: > If these were DC machines and interconnected by high current DC > lines > one could imagine a substantial magnetic field, but I believe that > these machines produce AC either directly or through an inverter. > > > -- > 73 Warren K2ORS > WD2XGJ > WD2XSH/23 > WE2XEB/2 > WE2XGR/1 > > > > > On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 4:15 PM, Andy Talbot > wrote: > > Surely if the magnetic field leaked that much, the generators > would suffer > > efficiency. > > They are designed as closed magnetic circuits, with all the field > lines > > closely confined in iron, with small air gaps > > > > Andy > > 'jnt > > > > > > On 22 September 2011 21:07, Hugh M0WYE wrote: > >> > >> Seems unlikely that the magnetism would reach that far to me - > the > >> magnetic field would be no different to any other large > generating set - > >> they are just an ordinary alternator driven through a gearbox. > >> If they did affect magnetic compasses you would have thought that > the > >> place you would really notice it would be around the coast, with > small boats > >> sailing in amongst them. > >> Although they look as if they are turning slowly, they can't do > many rpm > >> before the tips of the blades go supersonic, as the blades are > many 10s of > >> metres long. > >> Over what distance did you notice the magnetic effect? perhaps I > could get > >> down to the ones on Romney Marsh, here in Kent and see if they > have any > >> effect on a compass needle. > >> > >> The moving blades can affect radio reception for people living > nearby, > >> although I've not noticed this myself. > >> > >> 73 > >> Hugh M0WYE > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: mal hamilton > >> To: rsgb > >> Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 5:09 PM > >> Subject: LF: Turbine magnets > >> Great for LF!!!!!!!!!!!!! > >> > >> Experience > >> > >> Driving to Gleneagles in Scotland last weekend my car magnetic > compass was > >> reading backwards and erratic and I wondered why. > >> The hills es mountain tops are covered with WIND TURBINES, hugh > beasts > >> and only turning slowly, cannot be producing much electric. > >> however thinking about it I have concluded that the > strong MAGNETS in the > >> turbines must effect a magnetic compass, possible aeroplanes as > well except > >> they are flying very high, might also have an influence on > GPS frequencies > >> and navigation in these areas > >> I must say these hugh Monsters strewn all across the Scottish > mountain > >> tops and countryside spoils the scenery. > >> de Mal/G3KEV > >> > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ Penny Stock Jumping 3000% Sign up to the #1 voted penny stock newsletter for free today! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4e7bd15713f462f074m03vuc