Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-df06.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id C43FA380000D9; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 04:44:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1R71LT-0000xW-SH for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 09:42:55 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1R71LS-0000xN-DS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 09:42:54 +0100 Received: from nm2-vm0.bt.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([212.82.108.92]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1R71LQ-0003Fv-MP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 09:42:54 +0100 Received: from [212.82.108.229] by nm2.bt.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Sep 2011 08:42:46 -0000 Received: from [212.82.108.225] by tm2.bt.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Sep 2011 08:42:46 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1002.bt.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Sep 2011 08:42:46 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 842990.52980.bm@omp1002.bt.mail.ird.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 69581 invoked from network); 23 Sep 2011 08:42:46 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=DKIM-Signature:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=U4DvRycIBUwyoBTh+bIP9PvnXulqq/WLuN3pqlA3k2p3qYmop4Ya3iSDpssciMeHELg3LTShaP8J5eYkSrjZKv8c4EuZKexywNNRk1PBoHVWXtp0QToGBSBi1DuPjmdZsOjpvSOk78XFrbfjh1KpjGLT5FZxyyvzu9CFtRjCie4= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=s1024; t=1316767366; bh=DdIkTade9mlYohfMS7+3VeuefsF0ayb3m5lK2+Z8t1A=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=PByAgVwOwFrThLdRZLteFIjt3Tn5riAnTglgDIlfXcxYrYFske9N8KGFbhokQFHFWWl/mFs9SMzx7KMA9gDoQpB8QQYp4aw8IWKfe+iTreMlUprBrzpo3d/5ElAcrU1AGNLwiAxEiETyEaP/NMgwfyQqm8MVN+DOxJHWIJN5F3M= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: G1FtpQAVM1nIPNUUi4QibVdMDcDOYcQngE_o1IwuyaE2cTh NwDKsZyVFBXaLXxWO8eWQTsbnq7ofI2NI1080Anho2QkdyzjE.Jxv_ET3vYh VejiT5ZbohlXhkcI.yCI11xfBW.U7s8SWUu_mO.riW2qe5zxd8iyFXGEgtYo 5ubcObrZiXh_wiQgZZRHVIqNiTz.hP41J5eq1wjOoDA9cjq9sM8h1SkNgqXW O9hP_9ObdAVlREjkiKVcb6Wf_NgeBVm0V69e_Ogxa8h_qO7KQNH4nA8j4JPf piaRnQUur8R1Gxipbsh3s_jE5bwFSDqDJ8qOUTEKOsmjDUkSTiqO0EagZ1TJ xuVh7chg61qw8D6b8txriD.rIXn.G3TH_aFM95hX1JCG2UpVug5Vi8mNG4Oh _dL6TGoIe4Q-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: .u8e2g.swBByWKjbpA3lR6Fw.2ZEQrJJpVsTSrpXLCffsPaCEMY- Received: from IBM7FFA209F07C (c.ashby435@81.157.14.156 with login) by smtp820.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Sep 2011 08:42:44 +0000 GMT Message-ID: <172B542DC14B4B1D95F73D09C9759E3A@IBM7FFA209F07C> From: "Chris" To: References: <000a01cc7942$09fbef90$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <433A1E6B2B1A4FA895223B81346E0F1C@HughLaptop> Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 09:42:45 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6109 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Turbine magnets Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003B_01CC79D5.26018310" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=3.3 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK, FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:474457824:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d245.2 ; domain : btinternet.com DKIM : fail x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40da4e7c46f56338 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01CC79D5.26018310 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, Off topic I know, but whatever about magnetic effects, I agree with Mal = when it comes to the appearance of these things. They are gradually = ruining the best countryside in the UK. Mind you, the national grid = pylons are not much better, would have been well worth the extra cost to = bury the cables in my opinion. These turbines are relatively inefficient = when you take evrything into account. It's the government trying to meet = some ludicrous target re 'green' electricity generation. The sooner the = hype dies down and we go back to nuclear power the better I say. Vy 73, Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent, UK. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Hugh M0WYE=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 9:07 PM Subject: LF: Re: Turbine magnets Seems unlikely that the magnetism would reach that far to me - the = magnetic field would be no different to any other large generating set - = they are just an ordinary alternator driven through a gearbox. If they did affect magnetic compasses you would have thought that the = place you would really notice it would be around the coast, with small = boats sailing in amongst them. Although they look as if they are turning slowly, they can't do many = rpm before the tips of the blades go supersonic, as the blades are many = 10s of metres long. Over what distance did you notice the magnetic effect? perhaps I could = get down to the ones on Romney Marsh, here in Kent and see if they have = any effect on a compass needle. The moving blades can affect radio reception for people living nearby, = although I've not noticed this myself. 73 Hugh M0WYE ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mal hamilton=20 To: rsgb=20 Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 5:09 PM Subject: LF: Turbine magnets Great for LF!!!!!!!!!!!!! Experience Driving to Gleneagles in Scotland last weekend my car magnetic = compass was reading backwards and erratic and I wondered why. The hills es mountain tops are covered with WIND TURBINES, hugh = beasts and only turning slowly, cannot be producing much electric. however thinking about it I have concluded that the strong MAGNETS = in the turbines must effect a magnetic compass, possible aeroplanes as = well except they are flying very high, might also have an influence on = GPS frequencies and navigation in these areas I must say these hugh Monsters strewn all across the Scottish = mountain tops and countryside spoils the scenery. de Mal/G3KEV ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01CC79D5.26018310 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi all,
Off topic I know, but whatever about = magnetic=20 effects, I agree with Mal when it comes to the appearance of these = things. They=20 are gradually ruining the best countryside in the UK. Mind you, the = national=20 grid pylons are not much better, would have been well worth the = extra cost=20 to bury the cables in my opinion. These turbines are relatively = inefficient when=20 you take evrything into account. It's the government trying to meet some = ludicrous target re 'green' electricity generation. The sooner the hype = dies=20 down and we go back to nuclear power the better I say.
Vy 73,
Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent, = UK.
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Hugh = M0WYE=20
Sent: Thursday, September 22, = 2011 9:07=20 PM
Subject: LF: Re: Turbine = magnets

Seems unlikely that the magnetism = would reach=20 that far to me - the magnetic field would be no different to any other = large=20 generating set - they are just an ordinary alternator driven through a = gearbox.
If they did affect magnetic compasses = you would=20 have thought that the place you would really notice it would be around = the=20 coast, with small boats sailing in amongst them.
Although they look as if they are = turning slowly,=20 they can't do many rpm before the tips of the blades go supersonic, as = the=20 blades are many 10s of metres long.
Over what distance did you notice the = magnetic effect? perhaps I could get down to the ones on Romney = Marsh,=20 here in Kent and see if they have any effect on a compass=20 needle.
 
The moving blades can affect radio = reception for=20 people living nearby, although I've not noticed this = myself.
 
73
Hugh M0WYE
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 mal=20 hamilton
To: rsgb
Sent: Thursday, September 22, = 2011 5:09=20 PM
Subject: LF: Turbine = magnets

Great for LF!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Experience
 
Driving to Gleneagles in Scotland last = weekend my car=20 magnetic compass was reading backwards and erratic and I wondered=20 why.
The hills es mountain tops are covered with = WIND=20 TURBINES,  hugh beasts and only turning slowly, cannot be = producing=20 much electric.
however thinking about it I have concluded = that the=20 strong MAGNETS in the turbines must effect a magnetic = compass,  possible aeroplanes as well except they are flying=20 very high, might also have an influence on GPS frequencies = and=20 navigation in these areas
I must say these hugh Monsters strewn all = across the=20 Scottish mountain tops and countryside spoils the = scenery.
 de Mal/G3KEV
 
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