Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-me06.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id CCDD9380000F3; Wed, 10 Aug 2011 16:11:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1QrF6C-0005HE-I9 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 Aug 2011 21:09:56 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1QrF6B-0005H5-UH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 Aug 2011 21:09:55 +0100 Received: from smtp-vbr1.xs4all.nl ([194.109.24.21]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1QrF69-0007ya-I0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 Aug 2011 21:09:55 +0100 Received: from pc-roelof (ndb.demon.nl [82.161.81.65]) by smtp-vbr1.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p7AK9lMv061701 for ; Wed, 10 Aug 2011 22:09:52 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from roelof@ndb.demon.nl) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <008901cc578f$a7f78c60$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <6D253EC1EC0744139F7186331062B728@PcMinto> Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 22:09:41 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Roelof Bakker" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <6D253EC1EC0744139F7186331062B728@PcMinto> User-Agent: Opera Mail/11.50 (Win32) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes Subject: Re: LF: 137 PROBE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:419059552:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d608e4e42e6041149 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Hello Minto, If you like, I can also send you details of a mini-whip fed by CAT5 network cable. As a CAT5 balanced pair works as a balanced feedline, common mode reception is largely canceled. However, you should try your copper pipe first. I use a garden hose clamped to the pipe and a little water pressure to sink it in a minute! 73, Roelof, pa0rdt