Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dd06.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 1BDA638000101; Wed, 17 Aug 2011 13:10:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Qtjcl-0000tD-J2 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 Aug 2011 18:09:51 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Qtjck-0000t4-RD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 Aug 2011 18:09:50 +0100 Received: from filter02.i-online.fr ([195.200.78.9]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Qtjcj-0001B3-IH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 Aug 2011 18:09:50 +0100 Received: from smtp.qtxt.dns-iol.com ([195.200.78.13]) by filter02.i-online.fr (IceWarp 10.2.2) with ESMTP (SSL) id AZZ25443 for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2011 19:08:43 +0200 Received: (qmail 15647 invoked by uid 507); 17 Aug 2011 19:09:36 +0200 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.101?) (john.rabson@numeo.fr@217.67.155.178) by smtp.qtxt.dns-iol.com with SMTP; 17 Aug 2011 19:09:36 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) From: John Rabson X-Priority: 3 In-Reply-To: <001f01cc5cf9$4b734780$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 19:09:41 +0200 Message-Id: References: <68BE37BD69E54DEE89CEBA8E30E9B94E@PcMinto> <4E47FFE9.10100@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <3ED8E5422F1F45DBB8186E9D9870AD63@PcMinto> <4E480E02.9020706@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <938BF599006244949F6CDDB5BA91F347@PcMinto> <4E482FBD.7030402@freenet.de> <4E484183.9090805@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <4E494A57.90105@freenet.de> <4E4956DA.1060201@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <4E49643E.5090708@freenet.de> <4E496FF9.4040608@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <0A4ED65EC3B244A3BD0DAD6ACFF43793@JimPC> <4E4A5597.4070709@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <3746D901368F4C139E414F9110153EEE@JimPC> <4E4A9A1F.2060600@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <1B55B625C3CD4D529EC361D9C5D79D96@JimPC> <4E4AD4C8.8000509@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <4E4AEF31.5010306@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <1FF2FAD9854F4890A338A9F862D93FE9@JimPC> <8CE2AD319756ED7-1C20-14370@Webmail-m104.sysops.aol.com> <4E4BC177.6050902@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <001f01cc5cf9$4b734780$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: ***CECI EST UN SPAM*** Re: LF: Ferrite RX antennas Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-45-286332710 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:377079840:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40924e4bf6103730 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none --Apple-Mail-45-286332710 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mal, It's called =93stepwise refinement=94. Stefan's experiments need a = steady signal of known characteristics that is always there. He can use = that signal to establish how well (or otherwise) his new configuration = works. It is not easy to do these things if you have to depend on signals = which may not always be there. When you have made sufficient improvements, it is then a good time to go = looking for weaker signals. John F5VLF On 17 Aug 2011, at 18:18CEST, mal hamilton wrote: > Stefan > But what sort of strength do you Receive weak Radio Amateur signals. = That is the real test > Commercial radio stations a different matter with their Megawatts > de mal/g3kev --Apple-Mail-45-286332710 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Mal,

It's called =93stepwise = refinement=94. Stefan's experiments need a steady signal of known = characteristics that is always there. He can use that  signal to = establish how well (or otherwise) his new configuration = works.

It is not easy to do these things if you =  have to depend on signals which may not always be = there.

When you have made sufficient = improvements, it is then a good time to go looking for weaker = signals.

John F5VLF

On = 17 Aug 2011, at 18:18CEST, mal hamilton wrote:

Stefan
But what = sort of strength do you Receive weak Radio Amateur signals. That is the = real test
Commercial radio = stations a different matter with their Megawatts
de = mal/g3kev

= --Apple-Mail-45-286332710--