Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-df01.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 3711B38000126; Mon, 22 Aug 2011 12:47:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1QvXe4-0003zl-LJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Aug 2011 17:46:40 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1QvXe4-0003zc-0d for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Aug 2011 17:46:40 +0100 Received: from rhcavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.130] helo=cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1QvXe1-0002yB-8R for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Aug 2011 17:46:39 +0100 X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-ID: 6AD57128184.A437A X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (smtpshost02.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.75]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AD57128184 for ; Mon, 22 Aug 2011 18:46:29 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ICTS-S-HUB-N4.luna.kuleuven.be (icts-s-hub-n4.luna.kuleuven.be [10.112.9.14]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 430C7F3862 for ; Mon, 22 Aug 2011 18:46:29 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ICTS-S-EXC2-CA.luna.kuleuven.be ([10.112.11.13]) by ICTS-S-HUB-N4.luna.kuleuven.be ([10.112.9.14]) with mapi; Mon, 22 Aug 2011 18:46:29 +0200 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 18:45:05 +0200 Thread-Topic: LF: Re: Re: Ferrite wideband antennas? Thread-Index: AcxgZc3yMymv6BV3Rq24nc0PGOqMGAAhQovN Message-ID: References: <16BC8B3CA8672445BC2A29B4C14A26D4379ED2AAB4@exlnmb01.eur.nsroot.net> <4DF9EFD1.5010208@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <1313780109.51443.YahooMailNeo@web111907.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <9CD1E11E8BC9402CB4AECECAC4088443@JimPC> <00f801cc6004$c2282bd0$1502a8c0@Clemens04> <004801cc6055$87313f20$4001a8c0@lark> <1313971196.2595.7.camel@pat-compaq-evo>,<035601cc6065$67f3dc20$66a5fe04@ctrask> In-Reply-To: <035601cc6065$67f3dc20$66a5fe04@ctrask> Accept-Language: nl-NL, nl-BE Content-Language: nl-BE X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: nl-NL, nl-BE MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: RE: LF: Re: Re: Ferrite wideband antennas? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_BF4A524700075746A6467658DFC7102CB0B27CF24DICTSSEXC2CAlu_" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:393252448:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40d54e5288252dff X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none --_000_BF4A524700075746A6467658DFC7102CB0B27CF24DICTSSEXC2CAlu_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable have a look here : http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/freeabs_all.jsp?arnumber= =3D4563568 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T ________________________________ Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= ] namens Chris Trask [christrask@earthlink.net] Verzonden: maandag 22 augustus 2011 2:49 Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Onderwerp: Re: LF: Re: Re: Ferrite wideband antennas? > > > > > > This article may be of interest > > > > > > http://gmweb2.net/The%20FS%20Loop.htm > > > > > > It might also be unsupported hype !! to judge from the tone of the text= !! > > > I've managed to find time to read it (or rather, scan it). My first > reaction (I might be mistaken) is that he claims familiarity with the > works of Hertz and Tesla but seems not to be terribly aware of a guy > named Maxwell who who only managed to unify some laws of electromagnetic > radiation theory. > The poor fellow appeared on the UltraLightDX list for a short while to = promote his FSL antenna. It was quickly revealed that he had actually copi= ed many instances of prior art, including the detail of spacing the wire fr= om the ferrite, and even when this was pointed out he continued to insist t= hat his was original, and at one point stated more or less that he was enti= tled to make that claim because Polydoroff himself had not presented it to = the list. > > Should we, at this point retire to a quiet hostelry and discuss Black > Holes and singularities over a cold beer or three? > Perhaps we can nominate him to the next "Spot the Looney" contest. 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Van: owner-rsgb_l= f_group@blacksheep.org [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] namens Chris Tr= ask [christrask@earthlink.net]
Verzonden: maandag 22 augustus 2011 2:49
Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Onderwerp: Re: LF: Re: Re: Ferrite wideband antennas?

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> > > This article may be of interest
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> > > http://gmweb2.net/The%20FS%20Loop.htm=
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> > It might also be unsupported hype !! to judge from the tone of th= e text !!
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> I've managed to find time to read it (= or rather, scan it). My first
> reaction (I might be mistaken) is that he claims familiarity with the<= br> > works of Hertz and Tesla but seems not to be terribly aware of a guy > named Maxwell who who only managed to unify some laws of electromagnet= ic
> radiation theory.
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    The poor fellow appeared= on the UltraLightDX list for a short while to promote his FSL antenna.&nbs= p; It was quickly revealed that he had actually copied many instances of&nb= sp;prior art, including the detail of spacing the wire from the ferrite, and even when this was pointed out he continued to insist tha= t his was original, and at one point stated more or less that he was entitl= ed to make that claim because Polydoroff himself had not presented it to th= e list. 
 
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> Should we, at this point retire to a quiet hostelry and discuss Black<= br> > Holes and singularities over a cold beer or three?
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    Perhaps we can nominate him to the next "Spot = the Looney" contest.
 
Chris

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