Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mp06.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 47B493800008F; Sun, 14 Aug 2011 12:08:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1QsdE3-0007oo-2J for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Aug 2011 17:07:47 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1QsdE2-0007of-GT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Aug 2011 17:07:46 +0100 Received: from mail-wy0-f171.google.com ([74.125.82.171]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1QsdE0-0006wl-C2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Aug 2011 17:07:46 +0100 Received: by wyh13 with SMTP id 13so4794874wyh.16 for ; Sun, 14 Aug 2011 09:07:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:subject:date:mime-version:content-type :x-priority:x-msmail-priority:importance:x-mailer:x-mimeole; bh=NLApPNnGepUJ8Uw+eSpujpZdCikzQnaH+Sryi3f68i0=; b=OEjUCjcnM5KPDaihddazAFcCLYice4ZLIx1mNPd2FeK6gP3+ikxvtBrxLLkrBsR9Nu jBeqKTdAadS47c2crUznwhR6+VnNtrCWAJVdDFHq1K+UhvH7/AyKVe5CauFlJvCBD+y2 VWvgbLUCM6/LGZX7E5kpMftTOdHeX3mkV5vzA= Received: by 10.227.27.199 with SMTP id j7mr2751731wbc.59.1313338057704; Sun, 14 Aug 2011 09:07:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from PcMinto (h50208.upc-h.chello.nl [62.194.50.208]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id fg5sm3870736wbb.40.2011.08.14.09.07.36 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 14 Aug 2011 09:07:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <68BE37BD69E54DEE89CEBA8E30E9B94E@PcMinto> From: Minto Witteveen To: Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 18:07:29 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3538.513 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V15.4.3538.513 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: 137 grabbers Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0273_01CC5AAD.0799BE20" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME,WEIRD_PORT autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:408548032:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d247.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : fail x-aol-sid: 3039ac1dc14a4e47f2fc721f X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0273_01CC5AAD.0799BE20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Loop antenna: = http://www.pa3bca.nl/index.php?option=3Dcom_content&view=3Darticle&id=3D1= 0&Itemid=3D14 From: Minto Witteveen=20 Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 18:03 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: 137 grabbers Mal, LF, I am now using a single-turn loop in the backyard (hight abt 2 meters) = instead of the miniwhip.=20 One of these days I will test again with the miniwhip. First impression = (testing the noise against DCF39) was that they dont differ very much. 73=E2=80=99s Minto pa3bca (grabber at http://pa3bca.pa3bca.nl:8181)=20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - Ceterum censeo Carthaginem delendam esse From: mal hamilton=20 Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 17:51 To: rsgb=20 Subject: LF: 137 grabbers LF My signal seems consistant on the PA3PCA grabber but varies a lot on the = DK7FC grabber, sometimes stronger on this grabber and others like now = barely visible. Could it be the type of antenna in use ie one is more = prone to noise es qsb than the other? de mal/g3kev ------=_NextPart_000_0273_01CC5AAD.0799BE20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Loop antenna: http://www.pa3bca.nl/index.php?option=3D= com_content&view=3Darticle&id=3D10&Itemid=3D14
Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 18:03
Subject: Re: LF: 137 grabbers
 
Mal, LF,
 
I am now using a single-turn loop in the backyard (hight abt 2 = meters)=20 instead of the miniwhip.
One of these days I will test again with = the=20 miniwhip. First impression (testing the noise against DCF39) was that = they dont=20 differ very much.
 
73=E2=80=99s Minto pa3bca (grabber at http://pa3bca.pa3bca.nl:8181) =
 
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Ceterum=20 censeo Carthaginem delendam esse
 
Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 17:51
To: rsgb
Subject: LF: 137 grabbers
 
LF
My signal seems consistant on the PA3PCA grabber = but=20 varies a lot on the DK7FC grabber, sometimes stronger on this grabber = and others=20 like now barely visible. Could it be the type of antenna in use ie one = is more=20 prone to noise es qsb than the other?
de
mal/g3kev
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