Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mh01.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id B4B5938000231; Fri, 12 Aug 2011 17:08:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1QryxI-0006qZ-TW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 Aug 2011 22:07:48 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1QryxI-0006qQ-DD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 Aug 2011 22:07:48 +0100 Received: from mail-ww0-f47.google.com ([74.125.82.47]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1QryxF-0001BX-VL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 Aug 2011 22:07:48 +0100 Received: by wwf4 with SMTP id 4so3043065wwf.28 for ; Fri, 12 Aug 2011 14:07:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:mime-version :content-type:x-priority:x-msmail-priority:importance:x-mailer :x-mimeole; bh=tcT365pGnSy0zK0cxuNCITNYnVPMRA0Gbannk65mkwg=; b=A7zYgRt9F3V5Ke8wj8qg9Zr7UhGakViTG1LHHmpKeA4f/wVQ1cZWgiFSBPK2E0DGCQ GQzX7vkm76DkQHpWc+3RTzXs4Qb4O8RkLz6onDEz3mOP/3LZVu0ohO/FWSwZKqy51/Ay Trk9DPKReWOucZxX3d3k8zvqmEpUpDB7SBaPQ= Received: by 10.216.231.210 with SMTP id l60mr1407868weq.63.1313183260194; Fri, 12 Aug 2011 14:07:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from PcMinto (h50208.upc-h.chello.nl [62.194.50.208]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z49sm480564wec.2.2011.08.12.14.07.38 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 12 Aug 2011 14:07:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4FB899125601413A9077646E2728C784@PcMinto> From: Minto Witteveen To: References: <4E4527EF.2000304@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <52970A62D1224CAF9A966D1743DCBF00@PcMinto> <4E456AB7.6090403@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> In-Reply-To: <4E456AB7.6090403@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2011 23:07:32 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3538.513 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V15.4.3538.513 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: PA3BCA Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_016B_01CC5944.9DD19CB0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:450786976:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m227.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : fail x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d60d54e45964c248b X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_016B_01CC5944.9DD19CB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Stefan. I see your CQ on my grabber at this moment.=20 How does your ERP now compare with yesterday (during your QSO with Mal)? It looks like S/N is now worse here then yesterday. Reason might be the = loop versus the miniwhip (with the miniwhip the winner). But on the = other hand there seems to be a lot of QRN (because of lightning at this = moment. 73=E2=80=99s Minto pa3bca -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - Ceterum censeo Carthaginem delendam esse From: Stefan Sch=C3=A4fer=20 Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 20:02 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: PA3BCA Hi Minto, Am 12.08.2011 19:42, schrieb Minto Witteveen:=20 How much power were you generating? 73=E2=80=99s, Minto pa3bca It changes all the time. Not even sure since i just have an E field = probe to decouple some power from my TX antenna and feed it to a 50 uA = amperemeter, shunted by a potentiometer. This poti was adjusted to show = 100% full scale when using 120 W RF before some weeks. Now reduced the = parallel R on the poti so it shows just 25 uA then. Got 50 uA anyway by = QRO and more (not sure). So it should be arround 500W. This is -6 dBfs = :-) But the antenna, i.e. the coil and its cover is very lossy it seems. = When there was rain, i have up to twice the losses :-( Need to search = for an alternative cover (mustn't burn, so a water barrel is no = alternative...). 73, Stefan/DK7FC ------=_NextPart_000_016B_01CC5944.9DD19CB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Stefan.
 
I see your CQ on my grabber at this moment.
How does your ERP = now=20 compare with yesterday (during your QSO with Mal)?
It looks like S/N is now worse here then yesterday. Reason might be = the=20 loop versus the miniwhip (with the miniwhip the winner). But on the = other hand=20 there seems to be a lot of QRN (because of lightning at this = moment.
 
73=E2=80=99s Minto pa3bca
 
 
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Ceterum=20 censeo Carthaginem delendam esse
 
From: Stefan = Sch=C3=A4fer
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 20:02
Subject: Re: LF: PA3BCA
 
Hi=20 Minto,

Am 12.08.2011 19:42, schrieb Minto Witteveen:=20

How much = power were you=20 generating?

73=E2=80=99s,=20 Minto pa3bca
 
 

It changes all the time. = Not even=20 sure since i just have an E field probe to decouple some power from my = TX=20 antenna and feed it to a 50 uA amperemeter, shunted by a potentiometer. = This=20 poti was adjusted to show 100% full scale when using 120 W RF before = some weeks.=20 Now reduced the parallel R on the poti so it shows just 25 uA then. Got = 50 uA=20 anyway by QRO and more (not sure). So it should be arround 500W. This is = -6 dBfs=20 :-)

But the antenna, i.e. the coil and its cover is very lossy it = seems.=20 When there was rain, i have up to twice the losses :-( Need to search = for an=20 alternative cover (mustn't burn, so a water barrel is no=20 alternative...).


73, = Stefan/DK7FC
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