Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dh02.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id AD96B38000092; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 17:23:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1QyVlX-0002N4-Ig for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 22:22:39 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1QyVlW-0002Mv-Ul for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 22:22:38 +0100 Received: from relay.uni-heidelberg.de ([129.206.100.212]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1QyVlV-0006fo-D5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 22:22:38 +0100 Received: from freitag.iup.uni-heidelberg.de (freitag.iup.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.29.204]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id p7ULMaJJ024755 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 23:22:36 +0200 Received: from [129.206.22.206] (pc206.iup.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.22.206]) by freitag.iup.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.11.20060308/8.11.2) with ESMTP id p7ULMaee001643 for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 23:22:36 +0200 Message-ID: <4E5D5498.1010602@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 23:22:32 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Stefan_Sch=E4fer?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <7B6D5F6A8CEE4E3CAB04E35F1F9E9732@JimPC> <4E5A9A3A.50205@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <4E5CBAAB.4050804@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <4E5D01E8.4090604@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <002001cc672d$8ee9ad90$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <003201cc6731$f94be1e0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> In-Reply-To: <003201cc6731$f94be1e0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> X-Spam-Score: 1.4 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD=1.426 Subject: Re: LF: Ferrite rod antenna - on-air testing Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------030807090301020205060205" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:475703680:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d41164e5d54d45a73 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------030807090301020205060205 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by relay.uni-heidelberg.de id p7ULMaJJ024755 Mal, What i like is a real QSO, not more reports. There is almost nothing=20 going on on LF, so why stress yourselfe with short QSOs? Why building up=20 a complex RX/TX LF system and then doing 30 second QSOs? THAT would be=20 wasted time! Actually a QSO starts AFTER exchanging name, report, and locator. Then=20 the question is if someone has to tell something. But many people are=20 bored by others and themselfe. This is why contesting is so polular.=20 Exchanging that stupid "599" nonsense even if the call has to be=20 repeated several times!?! The are some well skilled CW OPs like DK4AN (very popular in DL) and=20 many UK OPs who are able to tell something interesting! In 2003 i've=20 often been /m on 40m CW and had wonderful QSO with G stns, sometimes=20 taking 2 hours at >125 Bpm. This is amatuer radio! Some weeks ago i had a DFCW-3 QSO with OK2BVG that took longer than 1.5=20 hours. What we have is *T I M E* !!! If i do the effort and drive with the car on a hill and build up a=20 station and the same backwards, what do i want with a 30 second QSO? Think about that! Am 30.08.2011 18:29, schrieb mal hamilton: > Jim can u es Stefan leave a break. I thought he would like more reports= but > u both keep going on even under marginal condx > de mal/g3kev > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "mal hamilton" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 4:57 PM > Subject: Re: LF: Ferrite rod antenna - on-air testing > > > =20 >> Stefan >> Looking out for you >> de mal/g3kev >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Stefan Sch=E4fer" >> To: >> Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 4:29 PM >> Subject: Re: LF: Ferrite rod antenna - on-air testing >> >> >> =20 >>> Jim, LF, >>> >>> I will go out of the city now, for a CW QSO on 136.5 kHz. Have alread= y >>> prepared the LF system and link. >>> No lightnings so far in a radius of 1000km and above. >>> >>> QRV in 30 Minutes. >>> >>> 73, Stefan/DK7FC >>> >>> >>> Am 30.08.2011 14:11, schrieb James Moritz: >>> =20 >>>> Dear Stefan, LF Group, >>>> >>>> =20 >>>>> At least now the band seems quiet. Not sure how it will be in the >>>>> evening. Since i want to try from /p i need a sked, at least 2 hour= s >>>>> before. Do we want to try in the evening again? >>>>> >>>>> =20 >>>> I can be available from about 1530utc onwards this evening - I would >>>> suggest trying before darkness, as SNR will probably be better then. >>>> If you would like to try this evening, let me know when you expect t= o >>>> be at your /P location. >>>> >>>> Cheers, Jim Moritz >>>> 73 de M0BMU >>>> =20 >>> =20 >> >> =20 > =20 --------------030807090301020205060205 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mal,

What i like is a real QSO, not more reports. There is almost nothing going on on LF, so why stress yourselfe with short QSOs? Why building up a complex RX/TX LF system and then doing 30 second QSOs? THAT would be wasted time!
Actually a QSO starts AFTER exchanging name, report, and locator. Then the question is if someone has to tell something. But many people are bored by others and themselfe. This is why contesting is so polular. Exchanging that stupid "599" nonsense even if the call has to be repeated several times!?!

The are some well skilled CW OPs like DK4AN (very popular in DL) and many UK OPs who are able to tell something interesting! In 2003 i've often been /m on 40m CW and had wonderful QSO with G stns, sometimes taking 2 hours at >125 Bpm. This is amatuer radio!

Some weeks ago i had a DFCW-3 QSO with OK2BVG that took longer than 1.5 hours. What we have is T I M E !!!

If i do the effort and drive with the car on a hill and build up a station and the same backwards, what do i want with a 30 second QSO?

Think about that!


 
Am 30.08.2011 18:29, schrieb mal hamilton: 
Jim can u es Stefan leave a break. I thought he would like more reports but
u both keep going on even under marginal condx
de mal/g3kev

----- Original Message -----
From: "mal hamilton" <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 4:57 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Ferrite rod antenna - on-air testing


  
Stefan
Looking out for you
de mal/g3kev

----- Original Message -----
From: "Stefan Schäfer" <Stefan.Schaefer@iup.uni-heidelberg.de>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 4:29 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Ferrite rod antenna - on-air testing


    
Jim, LF,

I will go out of the city now, for a CW QSO on 136.5 kHz. Have already
prepared the LF system and link.
No lightnings so far in a radius of 1000km and above.

QRV in 30 Minutes.

73, Stefan/DK7FC


Am 30.08.2011 14:11, schrieb James Moritz:
      
Dear Stefan, LF Group,

        
At least now the band seems quiet. Not sure how it will be in the
evening. Since i want to try from /p i need a sked, at least 2 hours
before. Do we want to try in the evening again?

          
I can be available from about 1530utc onwards this evening - I would
suggest trying before darkness, as SNR will probably be better then.
If you would like to try this evening, let me know when you expect to
be at your /P location.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU
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