Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 3289D380000A0; Wed, 17 Aug 2011 16:44:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Qtmxd-0002IT-M1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 Aug 2011 21:43:37 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Qtmxd-0002IK-8s for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 Aug 2011 21:43:37 +0100 Received: from relay.uni-heidelberg.de ([129.206.100.212]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Qtmxc-00054J-S6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 Aug 2011 21:43:37 +0100 Received: from ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (cyrus-portal.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.176]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id p7HKhaSI031075 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2011 22:43:36 +0200 Received: from extmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (extmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.140]) by ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p7HKhZ3S025616 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2011 22:43:35 +0200 Received: from [129.206.205.131] (vpn205-131.rzuser.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.205.131]) by extmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.4/8.13.1) with ESMTP id p7HKhXe1001554 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2011 22:43:35 +0200 Message-ID: <4E4C2803.40100@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 22:43:47 +0200 From: =?UTF-8?B?U3RlZmFuIFNjaMOkZmVy?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.1.11) Gecko/20100711 Thunderbird/3.0.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <68BE37BD69E54DEE89CEBA8E30E9B94E@PcMinto> <3ED8E5422F1F45DBB8186E9D9870AD63@PcMinto> <4E480E02.9020706@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <938BF599006244949F6CDDB5BA91F347@PcMinto> <4E482FBD.7030402@freenet.de> <4E484183.9090805@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <4E494A57.90105@freenet.de> <4E4956DA.1060201@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <4E49643E.5090708@freenet.de> <4E496FF9.4040608@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <0A4ED65EC3B244A3BD0DAD6ACFF43793@JimPC> <4E4A5597.4070709@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <3746D901368F4C139E414F9110153EEE@JimPC> <4E4A9A1F.2060600@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <1B55B625C3CD4D529EC361D9C5D79D96@JimPC> <4E4AD4C8.8000509@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <4E4AEF31.5010306@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <1FF2FAD9854F4890A338A9F862D93FE9@JimPC> <8CE2AD319756ED7-1C20-14370@Webmail-m104.sysops.aol.com> <4E4BC177.6050902@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <001f01cc5cf9$4b734780$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <1313610221.1650.6.camel@gerhard-desktop> In-Reply-To: <1313610221.1650.6.camel@gerhard-desktop> X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by relay.uni-heidelberg.de id p7HKhaSI031075 X-Spam-Score: 1.4 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD=1.426 Subject: Re: LF: Ferrite RX antennas Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:447244224:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d600a4e4c282a6023 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Thank you Gerhard. Yes, i know about Ossis signal. I have forgotten to look for it during=20 my tests but i have done a recording and could re-process it. But Ossi=20 hasn't been QRV during that time, i just saw on my grabber ;-) Anyway, Mal is about twice as far and i heared him so i am almost sure=20 that i would see Ossi in QRSS-60 :-) A CW test signal would have been=20 useful. There will be enough chances in the near future, not just doing tests=20 but real QSOs, i hope so. 73, Stefan/DK7FC Am 17.08.2011 21:43, schrieb Gerhard Hickl: > John, Stefan, LF! > > Not sure if all of you have noticed, but Ossi, OE5ODL is providing such > a signal nearly all the time around 137775. > > It would be ideally suited for Stefan because it's very well outside th= e > so called "Near-field" and thus giving "true" results. > > Stefan, if you need such a signal for test purposes just get in touch > with Ossi, I'm sure he will be glad to assist. > > 73 > OE3GHB > Gerhard > > > > Am Mittwoch, den 17.08.2011, 19:09 +0200 schrieb John Rabson: > =20 >> Mal, >> >> >> It's called =E2=80=9Cstepwise refinement=E2=80=9D. Stefan's experiment= s need a steady >> signal of known characteristics that is always there. He can use that >> signal to establish how well (or otherwise) his new configuration >> works. >> >> >> It is not easy to do these things if you have to depend on signals >> which may not always be there. >> >> >> When you have made sufficient improvements, it is then a good time to >> go looking for weaker signals. >> >> >> John F5VLF >> >> On 17 Aug 2011, at 18:18CEST, mal hamilton wrote: >> >> =20 >>> Stefan >>> But what sort of strength do you Receive weak Radio Amateur signals. >>> That is the real test >>> Commercial radio stations a different matter with their Megawatts >>> de mal/g3kev >>> =20 >> >> =20 > > =20