Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dk03.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id CA61038000063; Wed, 10 Aug 2011 17:17:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1QrG7e-0005ov-Gt for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 Aug 2011 22:15:30 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1QrG7e-0005om-4j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 Aug 2011 22:15:30 +0100 Received: from mout8.freenet.de ([195.4.92.98]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1QrG7d-0000jO-OA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 Aug 2011 22:15:30 +0100 Received: from [195.4.92.16] (helo=6.mx.freenet.de) by mout8.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.76 #5) id 1QrG7b-0000Pm-OL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 Aug 2011 23:15:27 +0200 Received: from blfd-4d08ff56.pool.mediaways.net ([77.8.255.86]:2784 helo=[192.168.0.101]) by 6.mx.freenet.de with esmtpsa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (TLSv1:CAMELLIA256-SHA:256) (port 465) (Exim 4.76 #5) id 1QrG7b-00044I-Gk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 Aug 2011 23:15:27 +0200 Message-ID: <4E42F4EC.5040809@freenet.de> Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 23:15:24 +0200 From: wolf_dl4yhf User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110624 Thunderbird/5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <008901cc578f$a7f78c60$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <6D253EC1EC0744139F7186331062B728@PcMinto> In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Score: 1.4 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD=1.426 Subject: Re: LF: 137 PROBE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:399531808:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1db4074e42f55c7d62 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Hi Roelof and group, > However, you should try your copper pipe first. > I use a garden hose clamped to the pipe and a little water pressure to > sink it in a minute! > hehe.. reminds me of the days when I started on shortwave. After pushing a 2 metre / meter long copper tube 1.9 m into the ground (while water from a pump flowing through it), I disconnected the hose, and went to the garage to turn off the pump. When returning to the garden, the damned tube was gone - had further continued its journey into the deep ! I had to dig it out, and found it in a depth of ~ 30 cm below the ground. So beware... there may be copper-eating aliens underground, especially when the ground is sandy :-) 73, Wolf .