Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 1935A38000087; Wed, 10 Aug 2011 16:55:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1QrFmI-0005gW-Fe for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 Aug 2011 21:53:26 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1QrFmH-0005gN-U2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 Aug 2011 21:53:25 +0100 Received: from relay2.uni-heidelberg.de ([129.206.210.211]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1QrFmG-0000Kj-QE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 Aug 2011 21:53:25 +0100 Received: from freitag.iup.uni-heidelberg.de (freitag.iup.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.29.204]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p7AKrN0Y010635 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 10 Aug 2011 22:53:23 +0200 Received: from [129.206.22.206] (pc206.iup.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.22.206]) by freitag.iup.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.11.20060308/8.11.2) with ESMTP id p7AKrNnI027530 for ; Wed, 10 Aug 2011 22:53:23 +0200 Message-ID: <4E42EF05.2030608@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 22:50:13 +0200 From: =?UTF-8?B?U3RlZmFuIFNjaMOkZmVy?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <4E418609.6020500@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <67A6F7BF45BF4A0193A3DCB53000A283@PcMinto> <008401cc56ce$2f1fb2c0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <12C475F3F4C84B818461753F2E8A60A6@PcMinto> <4E41AECB.90808@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <8D68749D37B94275855FDBA46A3F6C97@PcMinto> <4E427DFB.50801@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <0FA38FC9F88F41738D007D00C0B66503@PcMinto> In-Reply-To: <0FA38FC9F88F41738D007D00C0B66503@PcMinto> X-Spam-Score: 1.4 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD=1.426 Subject: Re: LF: Re: HB9ASB... Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------050104090309080901020107" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:459148288:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d60194e42f03e7459 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------050104090309080901020107 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Wow, what a discussion. Havent read all the comments so far but just a short answer to Minto: Am 10.08.2011 17:01, schrieb Minto Witteveen: > A choke (only) at the TX would accomplish nothing (in fact it may even > make it worse). There must have been a misunderstanding. I did not say that only a choke without grounding is a good solution. The antenna must be grounded at the far end too(garden, pole), as we all say. Maybe its better to do the discussion on the band, in a nice and long CW QSO! Full BK would be useful i think ;-) This bewares us to write longer and longer mails, commenting the comments and add new issues that will be commented later, hi. Better spending the time for practical experiments. Have you done further optimisations today? :-) Best 73 es CU sn Stefan/DK7FC --------------050104090309080901020107 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Wow, what a discussion. Havent read all the comments so far but just a short answer to Minto:

Am 10.08.2011 17:01, schrieb Minto Witteveen:
A choke (only) at the TX would accomplish nothing (in fact it may even make it worse).
There must have been a misunderstanding. I did not say that only a choke without grounding is a good solution.
The antenna must be grounded at the far end too(garden, pole), as we all say.

Maybe its better to do the discussion on the band, in a nice and long CW QSO! Full BK would be useful i think ;-) This bewares us to write longer and longer mails, commenting the comments and add new issues that will be commented later, hi.

Better spending the time for practical experiments.



Have you done further optimisations today? :-)

Best 73 es CU sn

Stefan/DK7FC


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