Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-de04.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 233B538000110; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 04:49:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Qotba-0003MX-1K for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 Aug 2011 09:48:38 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1QotbZ-0003MO-CA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 Aug 2011 09:48:37 +0100 Received: from nm1.bt.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([212.82.108.232]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1QotbX-0002W1-St for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 Aug 2011 09:48:37 +0100 Received: from [212.82.108.229] by nm1.bt.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Aug 2011 08:48:30 -0000 Received: from [212.82.108.227] by tm2.bt.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Aug 2011 08:48:30 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1004.bt.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Aug 2011 08:48:30 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 230591.36928.bm@omp1004.bt.mail.ird.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 42513 invoked from network); 4 Aug 2011 08:48:30 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=DKIM-Signature:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=LI2/mDQwhF4lWSmMqNURc/cV0vDzFLd1ekuh4QK03RQULzVI5DbGGq4aiRwk/Gdtl0+N8/pS52F2lMV3CmwtCtzN+iAeJfyg45aFq8827YfGu3P4uD4+z0o6KL0V0TD2jtMXi6yIWo/u3qt2Y4ZU3qdbPYR1e4XTPyrtYzExF4c= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=s1024; t=1312447710; bh=K6EOdb0U5cl5s7MzvkyN+nLFMzoNqreE7dtsCmzzZH4=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=zsc1pERGpBiosCkeGloXKVqb1bqyp4dQ6jZZwLczPHeFY3dbAvWBFGlpfQkciwfHvJIPrnfZ5kLR/p474z2weNCXocb69HKZhGK2UD+DSJJbHUqKXmcplVVvuhrr4E5UtnAUSlNvZibMrMTB7O86MdTe1K2ULGb31w9vc25Bid8= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: 3a4_J08VM1lGRQXsRQ7pq9xTomXF.AyQU9W_aeUq7x8raTL hhsGYnPmqnLWHfVYGD2kBNzdVlKImLtCb.YUr83s8wpUteKapgDFoRFTbfSs 1oIE346JwswDoSAQn125_TVJzfNGCeozXBdRd9zTPbvW9CrIm.pIyYflvfN4 cZqS48OMOojlw8O5TP0ttFb8tmf1YN.6SgpiHOmU0E6IItm_RERTPZtVZ2lv xM2hy.aMDucuAgZyZneP846ve6eukkLK_38MxohBwKGNqGxnQZjjzonFxcyj J6Rvpw2h8zprje0pzi9yzXK2GelzTOyJ8KjADv5.G_O6osEesPHwuQhjwR9i .HBUSU9pYkXLXOwSo6Mwp_XcAiLMRaf299yJyiN6XcpEGShGdxDi8ES.mBj5 Da1n5VK5CjPz_o5A- X-Yahoo-SMTP: .u8e2g.swBByWKjbpA3lR6Fw.2ZEQrJJpVsTSrpXLCffsPaCEMY- Received: from IBM7FFA209F07C (c.ashby435@81.135.138.199 with login) by smtp815.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 04 Aug 2011 08:48:30 +0000 GMT Message-ID: <312BD2C5CADC454991068C505649EF6A@IBM7FFA209F07C> From: "Chris" To: "RSGB LF Group" Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 09:48:35 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6109 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: QSY Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0029_01CC528B.ADDB1650" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.9 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK, FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:454136832:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d017.1 ; domain : btinternet.com DKIM : fail x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40cc4e3a5d24396a X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0029_01CC528B.ADDB1650 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Mal and LF, Mal says: "If one is plagued with environmental noise and poor signal quality on = LF/MF then maybe this is not the band for You." You might be right, but it's fun trying! I have very much enjoyed the = last couple of years on 136/7 despite the difficulties. Well, I'm not sure the QSY is a solution either. When I rotate my 2m = beam and watch the noise level on the s-meter, the noise goes up by = about 18db as the beam points down the line of the houses in my street. = Not surprising I have trouble on LF. All you can do is the best with the circumstances you're presented with. Lack of activity is as much due to us (radio amateurs) in general = getting older and dropping out of the hobby, with few youngsters = following on, as anything else. Thanks to those who commented about SNR, I agree with others = observations. Vy 73, Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent. ------=_NextPart_000_0029_01CC528B.ADDB1650 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Mal and LF,
Mal says:
"If one is plagued with environmental noise and = poor=20 signal quality on LF/MF then maybe this is not the band for = You."
You might be right, but it's fun trying! I have very much enjoyed = the last=20 couple of years on 136/7 despite the difficulties.
Well, I'm not sure the QSY is a solution either. When I rotate my = 2m beam=20 and watch the noise level on the s-meter, the noise goes up by about = 18db as the=20 beam points down the  line of the houses in my street. = Not=20 surprising I have trouble on LF.
All you can do is the best with the circumstances you're presented=20 with.
Lack of activity is as much due to us (radio amateurs) in general = getting=20 older and dropping out of the hobby, with few youngsters following on, = as=20 anything else.
Thanks to those who commented about SNR, I agree with others=20 observations.
Vy 73,
Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent.
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