Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dh03.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 83AB13800011D; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 10:56:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1QozKK-0004eb-GJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 Aug 2011 15:55:12 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1QozKK-0004eS-2w for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 Aug 2011 15:55:12 +0100 Received: from imr-mb02.mx.aol.com ([64.12.207.163]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1QozKH-00015b-Eu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 Aug 2011 15:55:12 +0100 Received: from mtaout-da04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-da04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.132]) by imr-mb02.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id p74Et2BR004687 for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 10:55:02 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.68] (host-92-11-194-147.as43234.net [92.11.194.147]) by mtaout-da04.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPA id E22E4E000096 for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 10:55:01 -0400 (EDT) From: g4gvw To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: References: <312BD2C5CADC454991068C505649EF6A@IBM7FFA209F07C> Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2011 15:54:59 +0100 Message-ID: <1312469699.2428.38.camel@pat-compaq-evo> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.28.3 X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:487055232:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: QSY Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:498362880:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d41174e3ab3307360 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Oooops! I forgot got to add: I can't remember clearly but I don't recall mention of Elft 'n' Safettey back in those days. Elfts were wot girls played wiv! 73 On Thu, 2011-08-04 at 14:03 +0100, Roger Lapthorn wrote: > Chris (et al) > > In the last few years I've given talks at 5 different radio clubs in > East Anglia. Some were well attended and thriving, others small but in > good shape and one was clearly in trouble. A common thread throughout > was a distinct lack of younger members. > > Although this is not a subject for further discussion on the > LF-reflector it is something that should concern us all. We need to > find more ways of making the hobby inviting to younger people without > "dumbing it down". How? As a teenager I was fascinated by short-wave, > communicating by string, radio, light beams and earth currents. Today, > the advances in technology make what we do appear far from > marvellous. > > Not sure of the answers but amateur radio in 2020 may be just a > handful of pensioners talking about how good it was in the old days. > No doubt Mal will be one of them. > > Did I also note in the RSGB's survey that LF was an interest mainly of > the older members? > > 73s > Roger G3XBM > > > > > On 4 August 2011 09:48, Chris wrote: > Hi Mal and LF, > Mal says: > "If one is plagued with environmental noise and poor signal > quality on LF/MF then maybe this is not the band for You." > You might be right, but it's fun trying! I have very much > enjoyed the last couple of years on 136/7 despite the > difficulties. > Well, I'm not sure the QSY is a solution either. When I rotate > my 2m beam and watch the noise level on the s-meter, the noise > goes up by about 18db as the beam points down the line of the > houses in my street. Not surprising I have trouble on LF. > All you can do is the best with the circumstances you're > presented with. > Lack of activity is as much due to us (radio amateurs) in > general getting older and dropping out of the hobby, with few > youngsters following on, as anything else. > Thanks to those who commented about SNR, I agree with others > observations. > Vy 73, > Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent. > > > > -- > http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ > http://www.g3xbm.co.uk > http://www.youtube.com/user/g3xbm > https://sites.google.com/site/sub9khz/ > -- 73 es gd dx de pat g4gvw qth nr felixstowe uk (east coast, county of suffolk)