Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-md04.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 027F938000773; Fri, 12 Aug 2011 19:25:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Qs15w-0007t1-7o for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Aug 2011 00:24:52 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Qs15v-0007ss-Mp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Aug 2011 00:24:51 +0100 Received: from nm1.bt.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.146.183.199]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Qs15u-0003XV-NX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Aug 2011 00:24:51 +0100 Received: from [217.146.183.195] by nm1.bt.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Aug 2011 23:24:44 -0000 Received: from [217.146.183.205] by tm1.bt.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Aug 2011 23:24:44 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1003.bt.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Aug 2011 23:24:44 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 841437.67469.bm@omp1003.bt.mail.ukl.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 29424 invoked from network); 12 Aug 2011 23:24:44 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=DKIM-Signature:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MIMEOLE; b=cG3pgbLWp6ycp8Cf3A5ujv9h2ykairZBMIek13AZHWha3xnyb7JLZqe1RPObUP9y6GU/kT54h3Ns+xCfneqYQ1yXcVyURZ0BpV2X1Alozgt06nvXKrKwJHd+UxX42VWaXobh30Xhf+20RwFn+6vg8jVdJvh16O5eh+0phDgxy/o= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=s1024; t=1313191484; bh=kdJtub5Z/gQhOE1byFmd3rz2iDXTp1Qefsb7qQhRFEA=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MIMEOLE; b=MgPDXs4Xyi30SPGVN7Oizly9sTV00Ni7zzcR47PqztmUDTHwJ9h6gnjbSbz0bnRAR4AyjOgKcLjTE9jnczYLvmuDfFjqpvQKvwNOy3k+t/8GixE8j5q/wpp371VcPdQBQzsyw3kqjnMVap2UhMXEWVHmIBvHl02uEIOCKfTxzTI= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: 0gTsBbUVM1lZ1GUHgAYyeE.JL_bjUXIOODfxZTlmuqliuPR rTV3zGSFpYbRKmDxiTQYZwnbqoTB3pDhLg1Jx.UcmKOwvlITD7am1gJw3bE. msFmylied5miuivcm8PDIZdKXXD00kIKLww6yG20uj9ov7ul3EZFkpyuyKBc oQjWNa63SP1P6McDL0sOJRihoxuUFHHVF8D6i0Eu2oWIpsg0jod792juN2l8 ZBKXkx7fcnkc4RNyinhsMnXLFrLBA8bO41TrSn84Cfw0_rUm4N_0dJAVsgqK QIMNKUDuhgy2xA9SOrkNKYUZ_XU2O9XYIFlR21lzxPw_RC6AtxtVbebMj4Nb e7RHhE31lFFySfZYL.V1rjrCEcc2GfjTJCLK6_SVUUwVWerILzecxcjhWyLy uMmlg9bNCH7UY4HMYIfc- X-Yahoo-SMTP: fpz.2VeswBBs59bVshRPmMN51lcO2lgFRIvE4XTqE8dRwOxd70E- Received: from lark (alan.melia@109.153.175.224 with login) by smtp815.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Aug 2011 23:24:44 +0000 GMT Message-ID: <002101cc5947$0a6ce300$4001a8c0@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <4E4527EF.2000304@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <52970A62D1224CAF9A966D1743DCBF00@PcMinto> <4E456AB7.6090403@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <4FB899125601413A9077646E2728C784@PcMinto> <4E45A678.5010908@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <4E45B0F9.1000007@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 00:24:04 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.2001 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.2001 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Faulty FKP-1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:501291744:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m025.2 ; domain : btinternet.com DKIM : fail x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d60584e45b67d25d9 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Hi Stefan, The voltage rating alone is not enough. The capacitors in the Class E stages must be "pluse rated" They have to pass massive amounts of current. I tried originally to use old valve caps but they are not rated for that level of current and the connection of the individual foil plates to the lead-out wires kept fusing and the capacitance went down and down. I would have though the WIMA caps were intended for SMPSUs so should be suitably rated. Because it is in the antenna circuit is it possible it might have been damaged by a nearby lighning surge?? Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stefan Schäfer" To: Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 12:02 AM Subject: LF: Faulty FKP-1 Minto, LF, Maybe interesting for other homebrewers in the QRO region as well... Actually the only thing that caused all the faults was a damaged WIMA FKP-1-2 kV cap. I never have had problems with these caps before. Never expected that. They are even suitable as a shunt cap for a 10 MHz 300W class E PA or as the shunt cap in a 1 kW 137 kHz class E... But now one looks quiet big here. I even heard it dying but thought the sound is coming from the FETs, making some noise when switching, you know. Thus the C was much lower and i didn't come on resonance. Probably the undefined C (sometimes even an inner shortcut?) caused strong mismatch and lastly destroyed the FETs. That was the weakest link of the chain. QRO optimisations... The C was 0.33 nF + 1 nF + 2.2 nF in parallel, this in series to the small variometer part in the shack. It allows resonating within the entire band. Now replaced, all works well again... 73, Stefan/DK7FC Am 13.08.2011 00:17, schrieb Stefan Schäfer: > Hi Minto. > > The signal must have been about 6 dB lower than yesterday. Still have > to go back to the old system, unfortunately. Difficult to do good > measurements here in the "shack" where all the stuff is floating > either on mains voltage or on 137 kHz or a mixture of that. Have a > battery supplied oscilloscope but anyway. > > I didn't got more than that what you saw, no higher power was possible > even when running the SMPS at 320 VDC. Unfortunately now i saw what > the reason was/is: Some of the turns of the loading coil moved a bit > and so i was outside the resonance. Since the Q of the TX antenna is > very high, the power goes down quickly when beeing outside the > resonance. I haven't had the tuning-meter (U,I, phase) in line, and > just tuned the shack-internal variometer for a maximum signal. > After the unwanted fault and replacing the FET i had to find other > problems like a non conducting shunt resistor (current sensing). This > wasn't visible. For some reason the current limiting didn't work then. > A second loud BAAAAAAANG caused me to *let it be* for this week! Now > two mains fuses here at QRL are OFF and i don't have the key to put > them in again. > Anyway, i'm in holiday for the next 2 weeks and they will be back in > when i am back and no one will remember that, hopefully, hi. > > Actually all that stuff should be exchanges in a QSO :-) BTW how about > YOUR PA? :-) > > 73, Stefan/DK7FC > > Now trying to bring the coil back to its previous L... > > > Am 12.08.2011 23:07, schrieb Minto Witteveen: >> Hi Stefan. >> I see your CQ on my grabber at this moment. >> How does your ERP now compare with yesterday (during your QSO with Mal)? >> It looks like S/N is now worse here then yesterday. Reason might be >> the loop versus the miniwhip (with the miniwhip the winner). But on >> the other hand there seems to be a lot of QRN (because of lightning >> at this moment. >> 73’s Minto pa3bca >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- - >> Ceterum censeo Carthaginem delendam esse >> *From:* Stefan Schäfer >> *Sent:* Friday, August 12, 2011 20:02 >> *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> *Subject:* Re: LF: PA3BCA >> Hi Minto, >> >> Am 12.08.2011 19:42, schrieb Minto Witteveen: >>> >>> How much power were you generating? >>> >>> 73’s, Minto pa3bca >> >> It changes all the time. Not even sure since i just have an E field >> probe to decouple some power from my TX antenna and feed it to a 50 >> uA amperemeter, shunted by a potentiometer. This poti was adjusted to >> show 100% full scale when using 120 W RF before some weeks. Now >> reduced the parallel R on the poti so it shows just 25 uA then. Got >> 50 uA anyway by QRO and more (not sure). So it should be arround >> 500W. This is -6 dBfs :-) >> >> But the antenna, i.e. the coil and its cover is very lossy it seems. >> When there was rain, i have up to twice the losses :-( Need to search >> for an alternative cover (mustn't burn, so a water barrel is no >> alternative...). >> >> >> 73, Stefan/DK7FC