Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mc05.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id BD611380000A5; Fri, 12 Aug 2011 19:09:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Qs0qo-0007eA-Hy for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Aug 2011 00:09:14 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Qs0qn-0007e0-VE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Aug 2011 00:09:13 +0100 Received: from nm3.bt.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.146.183.201]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Qs0ql-0003Ei-Mf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Aug 2011 00:09:13 +0100 Received: from [217.146.183.195] by nm3.bt.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Aug 2011 23:09:05 -0000 Received: from [217.146.183.206] by tm1.bt.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Aug 2011 23:09:05 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1004.bt.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Aug 2011 23:09:05 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 922030.29039.bm@omp1004.bt.mail.ukl.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 18189 invoked from network); 12 Aug 2011 23:09:05 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=DKIM-Signature:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MIMEOLE; b=CT46Hh/BOfRkKN+gKZAXPpDkomZEweiAI3Yun7D2JZtECtsQNV5D0ASkvXwZw6KERNVxC1MJulANdZuk0Tc9yvakqwMBb0laC9vfATZchmtB9FE5nLIpWweWYgrQ2FNyJcepvWKTymdeDj2Cx5HohCx7IuidKNV1uQMX2TjCjQU= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=s1024; t=1313190545; bh=ucvcE0caM1cngJroj/ADFYwhK2Q3gBfDIsspkV4ygfE=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MIMEOLE; b=kbegYKjqP278npMcU+k5olyUs/pK2Fh2zpy/39/POGP5Z+8aXRHKVTsPZrc7xKcmXsoCwxw194b5QrRj+6nMEM6a5fOIw9MptjFxijEBs9/mhthBZFdMHKVomgNq93eWgKpFz0PI+Y/vXgYblclWMXE9LspYN6zshY6HkldXGVY= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: DmwCEk4VM1kNTupd23RCD9WixcgTc.wX__FexzJV5xGHtan XypNmsoBFj2Tya1vYapLe3g8MVL..QxHqFYo6LugAxM.b1BDTeDkszXRvMpp EMpw8rTNS.gLy2kuFPRYtRh6C6tpk.47Ieoe974vU.KLnk1YtMSwZUSLjMI7 88GICaUaKf1K8Y0RCKPwBS_ZlLKUuA7LViEc8UU8xvVkMXRombBnsQ18sotN 2CNaCLv7cLMh2rHQVB9GhPCiBu1WbKXNOPXgBbNmAA2CSntEiwrM5hA.6MkV O1lt1KmqjUgVeQE91QMjEa4Pa5CZkmztShyLynlwrh6RN8hTFbdkURDgiUUi dbT0wZwQINTDUyPZgLAIovQcXIs0HWFSeH66ieI.y8hazPdQMswg4hy9fqPm JsHcQo5t9OxXDB0t2ZNOgdmUhoLOtY7r3BaJ81z.CoUcCRxJlwGfPOWAYYzg 0QI78R1Zdx0Q- X-Yahoo-SMTP: fpz.2VeswBBs59bVshRPmMN51lcO2lgFRIvE4XTqE8dRwOxd70E- Received: from lark (alan.melia@109.153.175.224 with login) by smtp820.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Aug 2011 23:09:05 +0000 GMT Message-ID: <001401cc5944$dafe7860$4001a8c0@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <998484.37544.qm@web100007.mail.kks.yahoo.co.jp> Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 00:05:30 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.2001 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.2001 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: Re: Re:LF: Re: DCF39 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:478684576:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d227.1 ; domain : btinternet.com DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d604d4e45b2c35439 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Hi Yas I am not sure what the exact frequency is at present, perhaps Markus or Wolf have a better local measurement, but a little bit high of 830 sounds about right. Good Luck Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Knight Ao" To: Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 10:56 PM Subject: Re:LF: Re: DCF39 Thanks Alan. I just uploaded sequential captures: http://icas.to/argo/dcf39/ It started to show up about one hour before the sunrise. My question is if DCF39's space freq exactly falls on 138,830.5Hz. (Maybe my Spec Lab freq accuracy is to 0.05Hz or so.) RX: DC RX (Fc 130kHz) directly fed into Spec Lab Ant: Mini-Whip PA0RDT design up 17.5m (just 2.5m from bldg. top) 73, Yas - JA8SCD/1 Tokyo --- Alan Melia wrote: > Hi Jas it is difficult to say for sure but I think you can be fairly certain > that is DCF39. I dont think there are anyother signals like that on LF > anywhere else in the world and the fact it fades out at sunrise is a further > proof I think. > > In Europe we can hear the "telegrams" every 10 seconds or so they have about > a 120Hz shift I cant remember the exact value. You will not see these on the > screen you will need to dig it out of the noise. The telegram is only about > 1 second long I think. > > Well done that is a good bit of DX for you. > > Best Wishes > Alan G3NYK > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Knight Ao" > To: > Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 10:10 PM > Subject: LF: DCF39 > > > Hello LF, > > This was my first try to listen for DCF39. > The attached screen capture shows a trace around 138,830.5Hz. > Can anyone out there in Europe please confirm this is from DCF39 > or not. It just faded away around 19:55, the sunrise time in Tokyo > of today. > > 73, > > > Yas - JA8SCD/1 > Tokyo > > >