Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 3FF76380000BA; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 05:50:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1QouYc-0003XS-97 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 Aug 2011 10:49:38 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1QouYb-0003XJ-OA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 Aug 2011 10:49:37 +0100 Received: from out1.ip08ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.244]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1QouYZ-0003kS-Au for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 Aug 2011 10:49:37 +0100 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AoMBAJ1qOk5cF/Xl/2dsb2JhbABClAkDg35EjxV4gTsFAQEFCAEBA0kCLAEBAwUCAQMEDQQBAQolFAEEGgYWCAYTCgECAgEBCodTwUKGQgSHK5w1 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.67,315,1309734000"; d="scan'208,217";a="498051514" Received: from host-92-23-245-229.as13285.net (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([92.23.245.229]) by out1.ip08ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 04 Aug 2011 10:49:28 +0100 Message-ID: <001101cc528b$cd63bfe0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <312BD2C5CADC454991068C505649EF6A@IBM7FFA209F07C> Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 10:49:28 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: QSY Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000E_01CC5294.2EE0BEA0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:494477024:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d600b4e3a6b7f42cc X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01CC5294.2EE0BEA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Chris Try some electronic construction projects, it will not over come the = noise but would make a change, maybe even generate some more QRM with = the Arc Welder. I am constructing a 60V, 20A psu at present from junk box bits, its = surprising what one has lying around in the garage!! I need a bigger signal on 137 so that those with Probe and Partridge joy = stick antennas can hear me. 73 es gl=20 de mal/g3kev =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Chris=20 To: RSGB LF Group=20 Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 9:48 AM Subject: LF: QSY Hi Mal and LF, Mal says:=20 "If one is plagued with environmental noise and poor signal quality on = LF/MF then maybe this is not the band for You." You might be right, but it's fun trying! I have very much enjoyed the = last couple of years on 136/7 despite the difficulties. Well, I'm not sure the QSY is a solution either. When I rotate my 2m = beam and watch the noise level on the s-meter, the noise goes up by = about 18db as the beam points down the line of the houses in my street. = Not surprising I have trouble on LF. All you can do is the best with the circumstances you're presented = with. Lack of activity is as much due to us (radio amateurs) in general = getting older and dropping out of the hobby, with few youngsters = following on, as anything else. Thanks to those who commented about SNR, I agree with others = observations. Vy 73, Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent. ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01CC5294.2EE0BEA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Chris
Try some electronic construction projects, it = will not=20 over come the noise but would make a change, maybe even generate some = more QRM=20 with the Arc Welder.
I am constructing a 60V, 20A psu at present from = junk box=20 bits, its surprising what one has lying around in the = garage!!
I need a bigger signal on 137 so that those=20 with Probe and Partridge joy stick antennas can hear = me.
73 es gl
de mal/g3kev
  
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From:=20 Chris
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 = 9:48=20 AM
Subject: LF: QSY

Hi Mal and LF,
Mal says:=20
"If one is plagued with environmental noise = and poor=20 signal quality on LF/MF then maybe this is not the band for = You."
You might be right, but it's fun trying! I have very much enjoyed = the=20 last couple of years on 136/7 despite the difficulties.
Well, I'm not sure the QSY is a solution either. When I rotate my = 2m beam=20 and watch the noise level on the s-meter, the noise goes up by about = 18db as=20 the beam points down the  line of the houses in my = street. Not=20 surprising I have trouble on LF.
All you can do is the best with the circumstances you're = presented=20 with.
Lack of activity is as much due to us (radio amateurs) in general = getting=20 older and dropping out of the hobby, with few youngsters following on, = as=20 anything else.
Thanks to those who commented about SNR, I agree with others=20 observations.
Vy 73,
Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable,=20 Kent.
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