Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mk02.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id C77EF380000C5; Sat, 30 Jul 2011 10:09:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1QnADO-0004m9-RQ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Jul 2011 15:08:30 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1QnADO-0004lz-Eh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Jul 2011 15:08:30 +0100 Received: from relay2.uni-heidelberg.de ([129.206.210.211]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1QnADN-0008Nr-7j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Jul 2011 15:08:30 +0100 Received: from ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (cyrus-portal.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.176]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p6UE8RAM022745 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 30 Jul 2011 16:08:27 +0200 Received: from extmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (extmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.140]) by ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p6UE8RmT000968 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 30 Jul 2011 16:08:27 +0200 Received: from [129.206.205.149] (vpn205-149.rzuser.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.205.149]) by extmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.4/8.13.1) with ESMTP id p6UE8PYj003461 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 30 Jul 2011 16:08:26 +0200 Message-ID: <4E341070.60400@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 16:08:48 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Stefan_Sch=E4fer?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.1.11) Gecko/20100711 Thunderbird/3.0.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Spam-Score: 1.4 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD=1.426 Subject: LF: K9AY loop for LF at W1VD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:383061056:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d61864e3410852d7e X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none LF, I just searched for a LF /p antenna that can be fixed in the trees of a nearby forest. I quickly came to the pages of W1VD and saw his design of a K9AY loop ( http://www.w1vd.com/k9ay11.pdf). Jay, if you are still QRV here (long time ago), how well does design perform, i.e. how many dBs can a noise source be attenuated by adjusting the potentiometer (that changes the dynamic "resistor", i.e. the output of the optocoupler? What angle is covered by this method? It is an interesting idea to do it this way! Can you give us a short report about the performance of your antenna? I would like to arrange a fixed loop for LF receiving in the forest to be QRV on LF without the need to carry my rather big and heavy RX loop antenna in the car. So i could use my bike instead. BTW, my /p LF homemade receiver using the SBL3 has only one amp stage and the total power needed is 12V*12 mA! So i got the idea to try a DC/DC converter to supply the RX out of the USB! This would make a heavy battery obsolete. I took a 4.5 Euro 1W unregulated converter and added a 78L12 and 2* 100 nF. As far as i can see the converter (=SMPS) adds to moving or broadband noise to the signal received! Good news for sceptics about SMPS ;-) If all works well i just need the netbook and the RX which is in the format of 10cm x 3cm x 8cm and a /p 70cm radio to become QRV soon :-) 73, Stefan/DK7FC