Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mk03.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 08E0838000086; Wed, 27 Jul 2011 19:27:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1QmDTM-0004fz-8b for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Jul 2011 00:25:04 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1QmDTL-0004fq-My for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Jul 2011 00:25:03 +0100 Received: from mailout02.t-online.de ([194.25.134.17]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1QmDTJ-0004cr-5A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 28 Jul 2011 00:25:03 +0100 Received: from fwd24.aul.t-online.de (fwd24.aul.t-online.de ) by mailout02.t-online.de with smtp id 1QmDTH-0006lw-Me; Thu, 28 Jul 2011 01:24:59 +0200 Received: from [192.168.2.32] (EG8-wZZAQhhVYi-IcB1tWOMYxCjk3sRg3LNukOg1fRrYhMCozZyQDAqrSYBeyUMgTH@[79.237.164.164]) by fwd24.t-online.de with esmtp id 1QmDTG-16ZV9k0; Thu, 28 Jul 2011 01:24:58 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de References:<4E292DA4.3090507@telus.net> <4E294BFF.4030700@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> In-Reply-To: To: X-Mailer: T-Online eMail 6.08.0003 Date: 27 Jul 2011 23:24 GMT Message-ID: <1QmDTG-16ZV9k0@fwd24.t-online.de> X-ID: EG8-wZZAQhhVYi-IcB1tWOMYxCjk3sRg3LNukOg1fRrYhMCozZyQDAqrSYBeyUMgTH X-TOI-MSGID: 1ba2d3f1-c5be-449a-ae12-cb33dd6b9c14 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Lightning Story Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:476204352:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d61874e309ec51449 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Dear all, I feel with Bill concerning the loss of his preamplifier, but in general I would like to raise the question whether it makes really sense to connect a preamplifier for an VLF loop directly at the loop. At VLF noise is high, and even a cable 50 meters long should have a rather low attenuation. Any protection for an amplifier should work better within the shack. HW? 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB "Bill de Carle" schrieb: > A couple of nights ago a thunderstorm came through here just after we > had gone to bed. We thought the storm had passed but then there was > a very loud bang. I heard the crackle and sizzle of electricity and > the boom almost simultaneously. A few minutes later fire trucks came > so I got up to investigate. Turns out the bolt hit a tall pine tree > on my neighbour's property. What remained of the tree was on > fire. Our telephone was not working but the mains power stayed > on. I thought for sure the next morning I'd have to replace blown > out parts. At the time of the lightning strike my antennas were > disconnected (outdoors) from the house because we knew the storm was > coming. I was concerned about a preamp for some VLF loops back in > the woods and a newly-installed mini-whip (J-310 front end) on the > garage roof. I measured the distance to where the lightning hit: 150 > M from the struck tree to the mini-whip and 200 M to the loop > preamp. I checked the preamp first: it was dead. Burned IC (TL084, > I could still detect the smell in the morning). When I tested the > mini-whip I was amazed it still worked fine! The loop has protective > diodes (1N4148) across the hi-Z ends and those diodes also survived > the strike, which was unexpected. Starting at the base of the struck > pine tree one notices a newly-made straight line trench in the ground > (about 30 M long) heading towards the nearby river. Evidently the > current was making its way to the water. I'm wondering why the > mini-whip (closer to the strike) survived but the TL084 did not. The > preamp drives a buried cable (about 50 M) to my radio shack. That > cable (no DC path to ground at either end) runs in a direction > parallel to the trench made by the lightning but displaced at least > 100 M. Could enough voltage be induced to burn up a TL084? > > Bill VE2IQ > > >