Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dk03.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id DA6873800010C; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 11:49:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1QXEmN-0004mz-Fz for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 16:46:47 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1QXEmM-0004mq-UT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 16:46:46 +0100 Received: from mail-pz0-f43.google.com ([209.85.210.43]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1QXEmJ-0000nw-CB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 16:46:46 +0100 Received: by pzk1 with SMTP id 1so1740057pzk.16 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 08:46:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=cMTEP2MEtmzGThWTmc9SnX3pMYWNaTtKdlK88MG24SM=; b=G3TGBgbhgMIjs35/z9ByIfn2/h6OD8wG40NGPB8CsT8phZ04mMVuP3iuKZmW4t/Xp2 ed/DJg2+2ysTINXZS8inir/1yCTcyJf4zX8qa90GnxKnJLOURTGsEHT6VxmPQFqiKFwn H5YOHUtQIi8diN0BxulrmErrTyOp3uU+1lnP4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=I7T+pYcTshWLwUrho7Ibu6DNPElUk2RKwETMKXmaO68vyc3RMo+ZUS+NyidQhxjFxO wRI0TNwG/bkJkdRiURtW0VEjY26DynlxHVQ38fy3gOJvhDoP4ZOKH6s65IawDULl6hCE qaVpyD9H8oYSaEx0OL8NjyGjB1OiAADVNZ2cI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.135.8 with SMTP id i8mr214508wfd.100.1308239195792; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 08:46:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.132.17 with HTTP; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 08:46:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4DF9F04E.5070200@talktalk.net> References: <4DF9E12E.3020405@talktalk.net> <1DEEAA49EBA04DFC84153152C06B7B6A@IBM7FFA209F07C> <4DF9F04E.5070200@talktalk.net> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 16:46:35 +0100 Message-ID: From: Roger Lapthorn To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: OT Waffle or Spam ? A different look at ZEVS Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd32ce28be4b904a5d62c77 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:481608896:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m205.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039ac1db4074dfa25fc1839 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none --000e0cd32ce28be4b904a5d62c77 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Personally I can't see any harm with the ZEVS postings here. Keep them coming - it takes 2 seconds to delete them if not of interest, or zero seconds if you make a filter to bin emails with the word ZEVS. Regarding the amateur VLF correspondence here, if this is where "the action" is currently, surely then these postings are OK. There is a Yahoo group for those interested in sub-9kHz amateur radio, but most VLF news is posted here first. Stefan, good luck at the weekend on VLF - I shall be looking for you on Saturday but we are away Sunday so will be unable to monitor then. 73s Roger G3XBM On 16 June 2011 13:00, qrss wrote: > Hi Chris > I was only joking, heaven knows we don't want to start debating it, or feed > the Mal. > > Anyway an interesting view point all parts of which are easily countered. > Force fed - there are groups for VLF,ELF ULF, I delete hundreds of posting > hourly which are of no interest to me it cause me me no pain. > Legal - this applies to all Wide views of VLF. > Drop off - Yes empty bands make you look elsewhere, erm VLF even. Currently > signals on LF 3 or 4, members keen on ZEVS and doing real experimentation 8 > or 9. > > Motto always blame someone else:-) > > 73 Eddie. > > > On 16/06/2011 12:18, Chris wrote: > >> I don't think so, we're rather being force fed. >> Not even sure it's legal to receive this signal under the terms of the >> various Wireless Telegraphy Acts, as it carries information and is not >> intended for general reception. >> Mal and others have noticed a big drop off in 137/500kHz activity - this >> seems to me to have coincided with all this VLF stuff. Maybe we should >> rename the Reflector 'VLF' not 'LF' as it currently is! >> Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent. >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "qrss" >> To: >> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 11:55 AM >> Subject: LF: OT Waffle or Spam ? A different look at ZEVS >> >> >> ZEVS I think is of interest to sufficient members of the group at the >>> moment.:-) >>> >>> A slightly improved set up, this morning was the first time that my ZEVS >>> Plot has given a lock over the full transmission. >>> >>> All DATA traces search a set window until they 'lock' onto the signal. >>> I have highlighted the locked periods. >>> >>> 73 Eddie G3ZJO >>> >>> >> >> >> > > -- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk http://www.youtube.com/user/g3xbm https://sites.google.com/site/sub9khz/ --000e0cd32ce28be4b904a5d62c77 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Personally I can't see any harm with the ZEVS postings here. Keep them = coming - it takes 2 seconds to delete them if not of interest, or zero seco= nds if you make a filter to bin emails with the word ZEVS.

Regarding= the amateur VLF correspondence here, if this is where "the action&quo= t; is currently, surely then these postings are OK.=A0 There is a Yahoo gro= up for those interested in sub-9kHz amateur radio, but most VLF news is pos= ted here first.

Stefan, good luck at the weekend on VLF - I shall be looking for you on= Saturday but we are away Sunday so will be unable to monitor then.

= 73s
Roger G3XBM




On 16 June= 2011 13:00, qrss <qrss@talktalk.net> wrote:
Hi Chris
I was only joking, heaven knows we don't want to start debating it, or = feed the Mal.

Anyway an interesting view point all parts of which are easily countered. Force fed - there are groups for VLF,ELF ULF, I delete hundreds of posting = hourly which are of no interest to me it cause me me no pain.
Legal - this applies to all Wide views of VLF.
Drop off - Yes empty bands make you look elsewhere, erm VLF even. Currently= signals on LF 3 or 4, members keen on ZEVS and doing real experimentation = 8 or 9.

Motto always blame someone else:-)

73 Eddie.


On 16/06/2011 12:18, Chris wrote:
I don't think so, we're rather being force fed.
Not even sure it's legal to receive this signal under the terms of the = various Wireless Telegraphy Acts, as it carries information and is not inte= nded for general reception.
Mal and others have noticed a big drop off in 137/500kHz activity - this se= ems to me to have coincided with all this VLF stuff. Maybe we should rename= the Reflector 'VLF' not 'LF' as it currently is!
Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent.
----- Original Message ----- From: "qrss" <qrss@talktalk.net>
To: <r= sgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 11:55 AM
Subject: LF: OT Waffle or Spam ? A different look at ZEVS


ZEVS I think is of interest to sufficient members of the group at the
moment.:-)

A slightly improved set up, this morning was the first time that my ZEVS Plot has given a lock over the full transmission.

=A0All DATA traces search a set window until they 'lock' onto the s= ignal.
I have highlighted the locked periods.

73 Eddie G3ZJO









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http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot= .com/
http://ww= w.g3xbm.co.uk
http://www.= youtube.com/user/g3xbm
https://sites.google.com/site/sub9khz/

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