Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dk02.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id D835D3800009E; Thu, 23 Jun 2011 04:44:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1QZfVS-0007Ol-5b for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 23 Jun 2011 09:43:22 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1QZfVR-0007Oc-K5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 23 Jun 2011 09:43:21 +0100 Received: from mail-pz0-f43.google.com ([209.85.210.43]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1QZfVO-0007Ol-E9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 23 Jun 2011 09:43:21 +0100 Received: by pzk1 with SMTP id 1so1495492pzk.16 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2011 01:43:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=DCaQlJAz1xfPpiWVSzbqYxFqGSh4gwPtHaqgZ3P4/1U=; b=YSxUtOfaD10aWsKiD8HuFLKIWhUU7z41yxSg+D0rtGoEXSnflzuyDRH+5UTp+SPOS1 mXKAorqH+44SYzDZtEJG4UnrIzQcUTM93pCkqqD9fjNE5gDnT88KNYwGNYIGRX60TnK7 f1qZtSAQzEekWQGiz+Xb8MqSQ+rGuwASK5RG4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=ZxidEwP7hHJ7+fphZQ0RAQSOkrfnGk8bR/7XmLDNYP9W9AxYr+98BxnpcWJ/iLUrkL PubtQ6aDGgTgM6qCSHIeuoUwYi8haSgIT/roxVm9jru2LiILYOXq1fMlqegLBQBMMaL5 6YjLvk5aa++Fr7yrqBJJx88sr3RK+7MVJ19W8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.143.26.25 with SMTP id d25mr371854wfj.125.1308818591122; Thu, 23 Jun 2011 01:43:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.126.15 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Jun 2011 01:43:11 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 09:43:11 +0100 Message-ID: From: Roger Lapthorn To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, sub9khz@yahoogroups.com DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_10_20=0.945,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Earth mode and pipes Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636e0ad073304b904a65d1389 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:411230624:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d281.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : fail x-aol-sid: 3039ac1db4064e02fd08391b X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none --001636e0ad073304b904a65d1389 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 It is some while since I last did any earth mode (conduction through the ground) tests although I intend to resume these in a few weeks' time after my holiday to Iceland. One of the tests will be earth mode at much higher frequencies such as around 30 and 70kHz as well as at even lower frequencies below 100Hz. I will try not to trigger WW3 by TXing around 82Hz though. Today I noticed some workmen in the road outside my house with measuring kit and listening gear. They were checking for leaks in water pipes which occur usually where sections of pipe are linked. As I'd always assumed my earth mode was utilities assisted via the metal water pipes from my house and in the road I asked the question what sort of pipes were in the road. I was surprised to hear these are not metal at all but are *asbestos cement*pipes. The did not believe any tracer wires were present either. So, I am a bit puzzled now about what exactly my earth mode signals are coupling into. All the indications were that I was using the water pipes but now I have some doubts. The other utilities in the road are electricity, gas and CATV which is fibre optic. Phones come in via overhead wires. I think the answer is that the coupling to buried utilities must be more complex than I had assumed and that the earth mode signal is coupled into a variety of pipes and cables. 73s Roger G3XBM -- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk http://www.youtube.com/user/g3xbm https://sites.google.com/site/sub9khz/ --001636e0ad073304b904a65d1389 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It is some while since I last did any earth mode (conduction through the gr= ound) tests although I intend to resume these in a few weeks' time afte= r my holiday to Iceland. One of the tests will be earth mode at much higher= frequencies such as around 30 and 70kHz as well as at even lower frequenci= es below 100Hz. I will try not to trigger WW3 by TXing around 82Hz though.<= br>
Today I noticed some workmen in the road outside my house with measurin= g kit and listening gear. They were checking for leaks in water pipes which= occur usually where sections of pipe are linked. As I'd always assumed= my earth mode was utilities assisted via the metal water pipes from my hou= se and in the road I asked the question what sort of pipes were in the road= . I was surprised to hear these are not metal at all but are asbestos ce= ment pipes. The did not believe any tracer wires were present either.
So, I am a bit puzzled now about what exactly my earth mode signals are= coupling into. All the indications were that I was using the water pipes b= ut now I have some doubts. The other utilities in the road are electricity,= gas and CATV which is fibre optic. Phones come in via overhead wires.=A0 I= think the answer is that the coupling to buried utilities must be more com= plex than I had assumed and that the earth mode signal is coupled into a va= riety of pipes and cables.

73s
Roger G3XBM

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