Return-Path: Received: from mtain-de04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-de04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.64.204]) by air-ma08.mail.aol.com (v129.10) with ESMTP id MAILINMA084-b5334df0b0c73b6; Thu, 09 Jun 2011 07:38:47 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-de04.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id C6673380000AF; Thu, 9 Jun 2011 07:38:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1QUdYV-00028B-JW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 09 Jun 2011 12:37:43 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1QUdYV-000282-77 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 09 Jun 2011 12:37:43 +0100 Received: from smtp6.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.191]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1QUdYT-00018e-RO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 09 Jun 2011 12:37:43 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3609.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 70FC41C00148 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2011 13:37:36 +0200 (CEST) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3609.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 6475D1C0014F for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2011 13:37:36 +0200 (CEST) Received: from MLB (unknown [95.144.185.64]) by mwinf3609.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 28EE21C00148 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2011 13:37:36 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20110609113736167.28EE21C00148@mwinf3609.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <7B5965052777486C94F7D037D8D872A3@MLB> From: "Martin Evans." To: References: <9E1D0F6DD9224C7A86D4227122F486E5@MLB> <003601cc2696$b086dcc0$4001a8c0@lark> Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 12:37:34 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5931 X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36 Subject: LF: Re: Re: antenna for 137kHz. Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40cc4df0b0c567a6 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Thanks Alan. Looks like I'm going to have to buy a nice piece of good coax! Your comment about the loop not being a competitor on transmit - do you mean that you think that I would be better off treating my wire, fed from the far end, as a top-loaded vertical? Would I be better to put up a separate vertical and forget about the loop? I could do that - I could probably get away with a 15m/20m vertical with capacity hat radials, a la 1960s HiFix. What do you think would be the way for me to go? Martin. ############################ > > Hi Martin, I would confirm Hugh's ideas. The idea way for all bands might be > to use the bottom of the remote pole as the feed point of the wire. This > gets the wire away from a lot of the pick-up and also from TV downloads, > house wiring and things that might pick up from your transmissions. > > Dont forget that two or three spaced horizontal top wires will improve your > inverted L even on top-band, but try to keep the wire as far away as is > practicable from walls, trees etc. which will increase the loss. I recommend > a simple aerial bridge for optimising the aerial and ground wires. But > getting it away from man-made noise is a winner, every extra metre helps. > The loop may well be quieter, but not necesarily so, but it will probably > not be a competitor on transmit unless you have an awful lot of tall trees > in that small plot. > > Fortunately 137 is a narrow band so you will probably find that you dont > need to keep rushing out to retune. > > Best of luck > Alan G3NYK