Return-Path: Received: from mtain-mk02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-mk02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.97.134]) by air-da04.mail.aol.com (v129.10) with ESMTP id MAILINDA042-86144df0a7e722d; Thu, 09 Jun 2011 07:00:56 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mk02.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 53236380000C5; Thu, 9 Jun 2011 07:00:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1QUcyC-0001at-4s for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 09 Jun 2011 12:00:12 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1QUcyB-0001ak-Or for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 09 Jun 2011 12:00:11 +0100 Received: from smtp6.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.190]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1QUcy9-0000IV-OJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 09 Jun 2011 12:00:11 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3628.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 324B47000434 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2011 13:00:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3628.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 25BB370006BC for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2011 13:00:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: from MLB (unknown [95.144.185.64]) by mwinf3628.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id E86677000434 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2011 13:00:03 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20110609110003952.E86677000434@mwinf3628.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <26DD990E1E5743F892FBC800FEA75EE9@MLB> From: "Martin Evans." To: References: <9E1D0F6DD9224C7A86D4227122F486E5@MLB> <4DF0A3C1.3050208@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 12:00:02 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5931 X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36 Subject: Re: LF: antenna for 137kHz. Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d61864df0a7e50946 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Hi Stephan. Well, the plan is to get my aerial working properly on receive first, then use it to transmit as well. I am only interested in LF - 137kHz and 160m, no higher. It would be most convenient if I could just use the one aerial for both because I have the usual problems with the Estates Manager (the XYL!!). I do intend to get an E probe working as well - it could go on the pole on the house, on a smaller pole on top, and be maybe 15 meters above ground, but this comes later. Martin GW3UCJ. ####################### > I assume you're talking about RX antennas? > If you want to use a loop, maybe you want to build an own loop for 137 kHz that is placed as far as possible > from the house. The size (enclosed area) may be smaller. You may use a coax cable going to the shack (maybe > RG174) that is grounded in the garden, with an own LF earth rod. Then you can use a transformer to couple > the signal to your RX. > There are several ways to do it and the best SNR that can be achieved depends on the local noise situation. > I am rather a fan of small E probe antennas since they are easy to build and can easily be lifted to 10 m > above GND, e.g. with a small plastic rod. But my experience with loops is small, maybe i become a fan of > them too soon :-) > > 73, Stefan/DK7FC