Return-Path: Received: from mtain-dd02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-dd02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.64.142]) by air-dc05.mail.aol.com (v129.10) with ESMTP id MAILINDC051-86014dc3019c2f1; Thu, 05 May 2011 15:59:24 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dd02.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 7B8EF38000185; Thu, 5 May 2011 15:59:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1QI4gx-0006Wj-HE for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 May 2011 20:58:31 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1QI4gw-0006WY-TY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 May 2011 20:58:30 +0100 Received: from mail-yx0-f171.google.com ([209.85.213.171]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1QI4gu-0001Fj-6J for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 May 2011 20:58:30 +0100 Received: by yxe42 with SMTP id 42so1268474yxe.16 for ; Thu, 05 May 2011 12:58:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=LiPzRI/EETLrH868Iz4Lf8xCc7f3zUz1jh2EQGoOYng=; b=newQOhYWo+j2rJ9nhmB/KnS4gyUulR7cLMajrPgoQQF0k/WxV02o6tYa9zmT6sjxFE QVbWMcUWWz/TXxyTI+j6PI7okI5TFV6IIQzdeDHEEdwk9Mx5ljjMV1kWrcBRYZXzRIYx 4EAXhzcJ6gQiaEw6yLdFCDMLvaZKzgQeRIQ44= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=mXtxa9+hLG1aEMBUr721omMWpnlmBu2/7ELrYaSTM8Lo52y391VBD4BJLB20BrkPEK PpPPVZqyxhkBcWU2RVntbhZvdWnk3iD4XE8L9rXlDle5kE84er1l5QVEuwLvfle27hza 8RUacj95QrEx6uncwqpla1rVywjd6+Dxv08go= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.90.42.38 with SMTP id p38mr737440agp.101.1304625501797; Thu, 05 May 2011 12:58:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.117.1 with HTTP; Thu, 5 May 2011 12:58:20 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4DC2C1B6.4050506@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <4DC2E927.3040508@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 20:58:20 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: JXY5KKcoXJKcXVzDu6L-xFHH7pw Message-ID: From: Gary - G4WGT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: QRSS30 QRPp beacon approx 137.770kHz - reports appreciated Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e64c3a1a997efc04a28ccb53 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNSAFE,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d022.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : fail x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d408e4dc301994a65 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --0016e64c3a1a997efc04a28ccb53 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Roger, Sorry, confused here, it was Chris XIZ I saw. 73 Gary - G4WGT. On 5 May 2011 20:25, Roger Lapthorn wrote: > Don't see my beacon Gary. I am sending in QRSS30 and all I can see is DF= CW. > > 73s > Roger g3XBM > > > On 5 May 2011 20:20, Gary - G4WGT wrote: > >> Hi Roger, Stefan & All, >> >> You will see now that my 137kHz grabber is back on (bottom grab) :- >> >> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html >> >> I have had a sound card go down & since fitting a replacement I had som= e >> serious local interference problems. All cleared except for the 504 to >> 510kHz grab. >> >> Roger is a good signal at the moment. >> >> 73, >> >> Gary - G4WGT. >> >> >> >> >> 2011/5/5 Stefan Sch=E4fer >> >>> Hello Roger, >>> >>> You may put the circuit in a waterproof plastic bag and put in the the >>> center of a water filled backet. Then it is sourrounded by a high ther= mal >>> capacity and should drift much slower :-) Shouldn't be a problem for= a QRP >>> device... >>> >>> 73, Stefan/DK7FC >>> >>> Am 05.05.2011 18:21, schrieb Roger Lapthorn: >>> >>> Hi Stefan (et al) >>> >>> Using the readout I have (nearest 10Hz on my FT817 and IC703) it is ve= ry >>> close to 137.770kHz by zero beating the signal. It would be helpful to= get a >>> semi-local with accurate frequency calibration to confirm the exact >>> frequency. I may try measuring the offset from one of the strong comme= rcial >>> signals and see if I can get a closer figure although I am going away= for a >>> week so this will have to wait until I get back. >>> >>> QRSS60 would be too wobbly with the crystal/divider arrangement I >>> currently have. Even QRSS30 was marginal (wobbly) with G3WCB and PA3CP= M. At >>> the moment the beacon board is just sitting on the desk in the open ai= r and >>> I suspect the crystal frequency moves a few Hz (before division) as I= wave >>> my arms typing this. There is also temperature drift as the PA keys on= . All >>> can be much improved. >>> >>> F1AFJ is not in the best direction for the loop antenna, but I am an >>> optimist. >>> >>> 73s >>> Roger G3XBM >>> >>> >>> 2011/5/5 Stefan Sch=E4fer >>> >>>> Hello Roger, >>>> >>>> What means close? Is it above 770 so i am looking for you :-) Maybe= the >>>> first RX stations can confirm the actual frequency, if unknown so far= . >>>> >>>> 73, GL, Stefan >>>> >>>> PS: QRSS60 would be more useful for all the grabbers. I see a goog >>>> chance that you can appear at F1AFJ! >>>> >>>> >>>> Am 05.05.2011 15:27, schrieb Roger Lapthorn: >>>> >>>> My QRSS30 50uW beacon *XBM* (space then G3XBM at 10wpm) is now active >>>> on its new frequency close to 137.770kHz until 2300z this evening. As >>>> always, reports and screen shots would be very much appreciated. >>>> >>>> If trying to copy it, very best of luck. >>>> >>>> 73s >>>> Roger G3XBM >>>> >>>> -- >>>> http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ >>>> http://www.g3xbm.co.uk >>>> http://www.youtube.com/user/g3xbm >>>> https://sites.google.com/site/sub9khz/ >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ >>> http://www.g3xbm.co.uk >>> http://www.youtube.com/user/g3xbm >>> https://sites.google.com/site/sub9khz/ >>> >>> >> > > > -- > http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ > http://www.g3xbm.co.uk > http://www.youtube.com/user/g3xbm > https://sites.google.com/site/sub9khz/ > > --0016e64c3a1a997efc04a28ccb53 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Roger,

Sorry, confused here, it was Chris XIZ I saw.=

73

Gary - G4WGT.
<= div>

On 5 May 2011 20:25, Roger Lapthorn= <rogerlap= thorn@gmail.com> wrote:
Don't see my beacon Gary. I am sendin= g in QRSS30 and all I can see is DFCW.

73s
Roger g3XBM
=


On 5 May 2011 20:20,= Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
Hi Roger, Stefan & All,

=
You will see now that my 137kHz grabber is back on (bottom grab) :-


I have had a sound card go down & since fitting a= replacement I had some serious local interference problems. All cleared= except for the 504 to 510kHz grab.

Roger is a go= od signal at the moment.

73,

G= ary - G4WGT.




2011/5/5 Stefan Sch=E4fer <s= chaefer@iup.uni-heidelberg.de>
=20 =20
Hello Roger,

You may put the circuit in a waterproof plastic bag and put in the the center of a water filled backet. Then it is sourrounded by a high thermal capacity and should drift much slower :-) Shouldn't be a problem for a QRP device...

73, Stefan/DK7FC

Am 05.05.2011 18:21, schrieb Roger Lapthorn:
Hi Stefan (et al)

Using the readout I have (nearest 10Hz on my FT817 and IC703) it is very close to 137.770kHz by zero beating the signal. It would be helpful to get a semi-local with accurate frequency calibration to confirm the exact frequency. I may try measuring the offset from one of the strong commercial signals and see if I can get a closer figure although I am going away for a week so this will have to wait until I get back.

QRSS60 would be too wobbly with the crystal/divider arrangement I currently have. Even QRSS30 was marginal (wobbly) with G3WCB and PA3CPM. At the moment the beacon board is just sitting on the desk in the open air and I suspect the crystal frequency moves a few Hz (before division) as I wave my arms typing this. There is also temperature drift as the PA keys on. All can be much improved.

F1AFJ is not in the best direction for the loop antenna, but I am an optimist.

73s
Roger G3XBM


2011/5/5 Stefan Sch=E4fer &= lt;Stefan.Schaefer@iup.uni-heidelberg.de>
Hello Roger,

What means close? Is it above 770 so i am looking for you :-) Maybe the first RX stations can confirm the actual frequency, if unknown so far.

73, GL, Stefan

PS: QRSS60 would be more useful for all the grabbers. I see a goog chance that you can appear at F1AFJ!


Am 05.05.2011 15:27, schrieb Roger Lapthorn:
My QRSS30 50uW beacon XBM (space then G3XBM at 10wpm) is now active on its new frequency close to 137.770kHz until 2300z this evening. As always, reports and screen shots would be very much appreciated.

If trying to copy it, very best of luck.

73s
Roger G3XBM

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