Return-Path: Received: from mtain-md04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-md04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.96.88]) by air-da01.mail.aol.com (v129.10) with ESMTP id MAILINDA013-86394dd9185d6b; Sun, 22 May 2011 10:06:21 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-md04.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id E3FFF380000AC; Sun, 22 May 2011 10:06:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1QO9HI-0003T0-U7 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 May 2011 15:05:08 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1QO9HI-0003Sr-C4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 May 2011 15:05:08 +0100 Received: from relay.uni-heidelberg.de ([129.206.100.212]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1QO9HH-00066h-NR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 May 2011 15:05:08 +0100 Received: from ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (cyrus-portal.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.176]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id p4ME56x0005033 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 22 May 2011 16:05:06 +0200 Received: from extmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (extmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.140]) by ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p4ME56uO006686 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 22 May 2011 16:05:06 +0200 Received: from [129.206.205.212] (vpn205-212.rzuser.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.205.212]) by extmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.4/8.13.1) with ESMTP id p4ME50sj009800 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 22 May 2011 16:05:05 +0200 Message-ID: <4DD9180A.5060306@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 16:04:58 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Stefan_Sch=E4fer?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.1.11) Gecko/20100711 Thunderbird/3.0.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <253986.40624.qm@web28510.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <4DD8F44E.4060801@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <006e01cc187d$e8701560$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> In-Reply-To: <006e01cc187d$e8701560$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> X-Spam-Score: 1.4 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD=1.426 Subject: Re: LF: Re: LF CW center of activity?? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------070609000603060204000708" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d60584dd9185b6eff X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --------------070609000603060204000708 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mal, LF, Am 22.05.2011 14:43, schrieb mal hamilton: > Stefan es Co > The procedure in the past was to use CW anywhere on the 137 khz band and > then Tune the band after a CQ for a reply, this is what I do because > everybody has their antenna resonated on a different frequency and it avoids > working off resonance, which is not recommended with HI Q antenna systems > and high power. > 136.5 khz was used by those with the Ropex TX xtal controlled on that > frequency, then they would tune the band for replies for those with VFO ctl, > also avoid QRM. > OK, tnx, info. > In the beginning and for some years the only mode used was CW then QRS was > introduced and later Beacons. > Since the introduction of QRS and Beacons the LF population has dropped from > over 30 active countries and over 100 radio operators to virtually Nil at > present. > Generate an optimistic view! You have a good station, so just be QRV _often_ and bring up some signals that can be received by new upcoming stations. Beacon transmissions are interesting (e.g. for watching the QRN behaviour) and give some signals for those optimising their RX and so on. But (i agree that) a real "CQ..." is rather a motivation than just a suffix. Since i am QRV again with a fixed antenna (and during the /p activities) i got several emails from people receiving me, who are not member of the reflector (probably) and still cannot transmit. Usually people start receiving on LF, TXing comes after that. If there is not even a ham generated signal that can be received, why should people start to build a TX? If there is some activity (maybe adding the locator sometimes, to give the only-RX-stations some information about the distance), new people may come up here. A new active generation, this is what i want to work for! 73,Stefan/DK7FC --------------070609000603060204000708 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mal, LF,

Am 22.05.2011 14:43, schrieb mal hamilton:
Stefan es Co
The procedure in the past was to use CW anywhere on the 137 khz band and
then Tune the band after a CQ for a reply, this is what I do because
everybody has their antenna resonated on a different frequency and it avoids
working off resonance, which is not recommended with HI Q antenna systems
and high power.
136.5 khz was used by those with the Ropex TX xtal controlled on that
frequency, then they would tune the band for replies for those with VFO ctl,
also avoid QRM.
  
OK, tnx, info.
In the beginning and for some years the only mode used was CW then QRS was
introduced and later Beacons.
Since the introduction of QRS and Beacons the LF population has dropped from
over 30 active countries and over 100 radio operators to virtually Nil at
present.

Generate an optimistic view! You have a good station, so just be QRV often and bring up some signals that can be received by new upcoming stations.
Beacon transmissions are interesting (e.g. for watching the QRN behaviour) and give some signals for those optimising their RX and so on. But (i agree that) a real "CQ..." is rather a motivation than just a suffix.
Since i am QRV again with a fixed antenna (and during the /p activities) i got several emails from people receiving me, who are not member of the reflector (probably) and still cannot transmit. Usually people start receiving on LF, TXing comes after that. If there is not even a ham generated signal that can be received, why should people start to build a TX? If there is some activity (maybe adding the locator sometimes, to give the only-RX-stations some information about the distance), new people may come up here.
A new active generation, this is what i want to work for!

73,Stefan/DK7FC
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