Return-Path: Received: from mtain-mp06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-mp06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.193.74]) by air-de03.mail.aol.com (v129.10) with ESMTP id MAILINDE031-5eaa4dd42673170; Wed, 18 May 2011 16:05:07 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mp06.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id E3E6A3800120B; Wed, 18 May 2011 16:03:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1QMmwt-0001EE-Cz for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 May 2011 21:02:27 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1QMmws-0001E5-AE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 May 2011 21:02:26 +0100 Received: from relay2.uni-heidelberg.de ([129.206.210.211]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1QMmwr-0000Dj-7Q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 May 2011 21:02:26 +0100 Received: from ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (cyrus-portal.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.176]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p4IK2MYv018350 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 18 May 2011 22:02:24 +0200 Received: from extmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (extmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.140]) by ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p4IK2Mkc006281 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 18 May 2011 22:02:22 +0200 Received: from [129.206.205.75] (vpn205-075.rzuser.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.205.75]) by extmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.4/8.13.1) with ESMTP id p4IK2JD2012253 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 18 May 2011 22:02:21 +0200 Message-ID: <4DD425D7.4010905@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 22:02:31 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Stefan_Sch=E4fer?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.1.11) Gecko/20100711 Thunderbird/3.0.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001501cc1581$7e91a360$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> In-Reply-To: <001501cc1581$7e91a360$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> X-Spam-Score: 1.6 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_TAG_EXIST_TBODY=0.126,RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD=1.426 Subject: Re: Fw: Re: LF: Re: Experimental QRSS-1 grabber at DK7FC Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------080506090702010303000504" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY,HTML_TITLE_EMPTY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1dc14a4dd426254907 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : temperror X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --------------080506090702010303000504 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de id p4IK2MYv018350 Mal, Do you await an answer? Well, you know i even have a 650 W generator available which would even=20 allow to comminicate on VLF. On LF the ERP would be above 100 W when=20 using the 300m antenna. But, after an EMP, what would you like to talk about with me? About the WX= ? 73, Stefan/DK7FC Am 18.05.2011 19:32, schrieb mal hamilton: > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* mal hamilton > *To:* Stefan Sch=E4fer > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 17, 2011 5:03 PM > *Subject:* Re: Re: LF: Re: Experimental QRSS-1 grabber at DK7FC > > Stefan > There is no substitute for a few watts CW mode from a valve TX/RX and= =20 > a piece of wire if we want reliable communications, no third party=20 > involved like ISP and no EMP problems to ZAP the fragile Chips inside=20 > an appliance operator box. > Pedal power, wind generator or small electric generator and some Wet=20 > batteries provides the DC. > Keep it simple. This is what NFD is all about. I once saw a small home= =20 > made steam driven generator on a NFD site, a bucket of coal and some=20 > water for the steam engine and an old automobile 12v dynamo. > g3kev > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Stefan Sch=E4fer > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > ; mal hamilton > ; Albert > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 17, 2011 4:47 PM > *Subject:* Fwd: Re: LF: Re: Experimental QRSS-1 grabber at DK7FC > > The message seemed to be stopped by the reflector. Once again... > > 73, Stefan > > -------- Original-Nachricht -------- > Betreff: Re: LF: Re: Experimental QRSS-1 grabber at DK7FC > Datum: Tue, 17 May 2011 16:17:15 +0200 > Von: Stefan Sch=E4fer > An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > > > Tnx to PA0A and G3KEV for the test signals! Pics attached. > > 73, Stefan/DK7FC > > Am 17.05.2011 15:42, schrieb Stefan Sch=E4fer: > > Mal, > > > > Could you try again. Haven't seen your transmission and didn't co= llect > > the captures. Now collecting and watching... > > > > 73, Stefan > > Am 17.05.2011 15:24, schrieb mal hamilton: > >> Stefan > >> Grabbers working FB on 137 Khz sensitivity restored, tested 13= 23 z > >> today > >> 73 de mal/g3kev > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Stefan Sch=E4fer" > >> To: > >> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 11:31 AM > >> Subject: LF: Experimental QRSS-1 grabber at DK7FC > >> > >> > >>> Hello LF, > >>> > >>> I just set up a temporary QRSS-1 grabber at > >>> http://www.iup.uni-heidelberg.de/schaefer_vlf/DK7FC_LF_Grabber3= .html > >>> It is fast updating each 20 seconds. The scroll rate is 200 ms/= pix, FFT > >>> bin width is 1.34 Hz. Maybe it helps a bit to exchange more inf= ormation > >>> for strong local stations. > >>> > >>> The webpage and capture is minimized to allow fast updating. So= no > >>> counters and that stuff... > >>> > >>> It is not intended to make a new alternative standard but rathe= r to do > >>> some local experiments. > >>> > >>> Any kind of feedback is apprechiated. > >>> > >>> Vy 73, Stefan/DK7FC > >>> > >>> PS: Unfortunately i have some local noise by a SMPS here but th= ats just > >>> for a few hours during other experiments here by the working gr= oups... > >>> > > > > =20 > --------------080506090702010303000504 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de id p4IK2MYv018350 Mal,

Do you await an answer?

Well, you know i even have a 650 W generator available which would even allow to comminicate on VLF. On LF the ERP would be above 100 W when using the 300m antenna.

But, after an EMP, what would you like to talk about with me? About the WX?

73, Stefan/DK7FC



Am 18.05.2011 19:32, schrieb mal hamilton:
=A0
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 5:03 PM
Subject: Re: Re: LF: Re: Experimental QRSS-1 grabber at DK7FC

Stefan
There is no substitute for a few watts CW mode from a valve TX/RX =A0and a piece of wire if we want reliable communications, no third party involved like ISP and no EMP problems to ZAP the fragile Chips inside an appliance operator box.
Pedal power, wind generator or small electric generator and some Wet batteries provides the DC.
Keep it simple. This is what NFD is all about. I once saw a small home made=A0steam driven generator on a NFD site, a bucket of coal and some water for the steam engine and an old automobile 12v dynamo.
=A0
g3kev
=A0
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 4:47 PM
Subject:= Fwd: Re: LF: Re: Experimental QRSS-1 grabber at DK7FC

The message seemed to be stopped by the reflector. Once again...

73, Stefan

-------- Original-Nachricht --------
Betref= f: Re: LF: Re: Experimental QRSS-1 grabber at DK7FC
Datum:= Tue, 17 May 2011 16:17:15 +0200
Von:= Stefan Sch=E4fer <= ;schaefer@iup.uni-heidelberg.de>
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep= .org 


Tnx to PA0A and G3KEV for the test signals! Pics attached.

73, Stefan/DK7FC

Am 17.05.2011 15:42, schrieb Stefan Sch=E4fer:
> Mal,
>
> Could you try again. Haven't seen your transmission and didn't collec=
t=20
> the captures. Now collecting and watching...
>
> 73, Stefan
> Am 17.05.2011 15:24, schrieb mal hamilton:
>> Stefan
>>   Grabbers working FB on 137 Khz sensitivity restored, tested 132=
3 z=20
>> today
>> 73 de mal/g3kev
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Stefan Sch=E4fer"<Stefan.Schaefer@iup.uni-heidelberg.de>
>> To:<rsgb_lf_group@blackshee=
p.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 11:31 AM
>> Subject: LF: Experimental QRSS-1 grabber at DK7FC
>>
>>
>>> Hello LF,
>>>
>>> I just set up a temporary QRSS-1 grabber at
>>> http://www.iup.uni-heidelberg.de/schaefer_vlf/DK7FC_LF_Grabber3.htm=
l
>>> It is fast updating each 20 seconds. The scroll rate is 200=
 ms/pix, FFT
>>> bin width is 1.34 Hz. Maybe it helps a bit to exchange more=
 information
>>> for strong local stations.
>>>
>>> The webpage and capture is minimized to allow fast updating.=
 So no
>>> counters and that stuff...
>>>
>>> It is not intended to make a new alternative standard but rat=
her to do
>>> some local experiments.
>>>
>>> Any kind of feedback is apprechiated.
>>>
>>> Vy 73, Stefan/DK7FC
>>>
>>> PS: Unfortunately i have some local noise by a SMPS here but=
 thats just
>>> for a few hours during other experiments here by the working=
 groups...
>>>
>
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