Return-Path: Received: from mtain-mh01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-mh01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.96.213]) by air-da08.mail.aol.com (v129.10) with ESMTP id MAILINDA083-86404dc715df296; Sun, 08 May 2011 18:14:55 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mh01.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id CA24D38000083; Sun, 8 May 2011 18:14:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1QJCEP-0002qt-5x for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 May 2011 23:13:41 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1QJCEO-0002qk-EM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 May 2011 23:13:40 +0100 Received: from mk-outboundfilter-5.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.1]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1QJCEM-0001gR-16 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 May 2011 23:13:40 +0100 X-Trace: 377066095/mk-outboundfilter-5.mail.uk.tiscali.com/PIPEX/$PIPEX-ACCEPTED/pipex-temporary-group/88.110.184.215/None/c.r.dillon@dsl.pipex.com X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.110.184.215 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: c.r.dillon@dsl.pipex.com X-SMTP-AUTH: c.r.dillon%dsl.pipex.com X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Thunderbird/3.1.10 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AskCAE8Ux01YbrjX/2dsb2JhbAAMhEaTTcMGj36BKoNggQIEk3+KRA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.64,337,1301871600"; d="scan'208";a="377066095" X-IP-Direction: OUT Received: from 88-110-184-215.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO [127.0.0.1]) ([88.110.184.215]) by smtp.pipex.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 08 May 2011 23:13:31 +0100 Message-ID: <4DC7158B.8090003@dsl.pipex.com> Date: Sun, 08 May 2011 23:13:31 +0100 From: Chris Dillon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <4DC65644.701@talktalk.net> <4DC6D9DA.3080801@dsl.pipex.com> <1304888225.1662.27.camel@gerhard-desktop> <4DC70AD5.7030102@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> In-Reply-To: <4DC70AD5.7030102@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> X-Spam-Score: 1.4 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD=1.426 Subject: Re: LF: ZEVS transmission at 1800BST Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d60d54dc715dd47ad X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Stefan, Gerhard, ELF The pre-amp is your circuit, Stefan, with the input FET on the antenna=20 and connected through 10m of twisted pair. For normal VLF work I also=20 added a op amp to the output of the second FE. This rolls off=20 below1.3kHz and drives 30m of coax to my computer upstairs in the house=20 through two cheap 600 ohm line isolating transformers. The ZEVS signals=20 are doing well to get through the LF filtering. I haven't changed the=20 LPF in SL which is still set at 22kHz - the default settings for normal=20 VLF. The hum filter is switched on and significantly reduces the 50Hz=20 component. 73 Chris G3WCD On 08/05/2011 22:27, Stefan Sch=C3=A4fer wrote: > Hello Chris, Gerhard, ELF, > > I've also seen a stable trace at 82 Hz but not the frequency shifting=20 > transmission before. For some reasons there are various QRM levels=20 > here and i don't know the origin. Never mind and interesting to see=20 > something at all. Would be interesting to see what can be achieved=20 > with an ELF optimised crcuit... > > My SL settings include a 700 Hz LPF and the noiseblanker afterwards,=20 > using the usual VLF settings. The width of one FFT bin is at 11 mHz=20 > and the scroll rate is 1 pix/minute which seems to be a bit to slow. I= =20 > will change to 30 sec/pix soon. I've switched on the "Paul Nicholsons=20 > hum filter" and set the hum frequency to 16 2/3 Hz to remove 50 Hz and= =20 > 16 2/3 Hz harmonics of the German train power grid. > > Maybe a simple mains transformer allows a simple way to realise a LPF? > > 73, Stefan/DK7FC > > Am 08.05.2011 22:57, schrieb Gerhard Hickl: >> Hi Chris, LF! >> >> Very interesting....I'm also using Stefan's E-probe and on 9khz ist's >> very sensitive. My probe is more than 15m above ground and I'm also >> trying to receive the ZEVS-transmissions. I have the window running >> since a few days but nothing on screen here in JN88hl.... >> >> I'm just using a low-pass filter with 1000Hz -3db point and the >> noise-blanker afterwards. I wonder about your SL-settings. >> >> 73 >> OE3GHB >> Gerhard >> >> >> >> Am Sonntag, den 08.05.2011, 18:58 +0100 schrieb Chris Dillon: >>> Hi all - ZEVS transmission starting at 1800 BST received at IO92vf >>> using a 'Stefan' pre-amp with a 1m probe about 3m high. >>> Still transmitting a constant carrier on 82 Hz at 1857 BST. Wonder if >>> they QSL reception reports?! >>> >>> 73 Chris G3WCD >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 08/05/2011 09:37, qrss wrote: >>>> Stefan / LF >>>> >>>> Message commenced 0800UTC. >>>> >>>> Eddie >>>> >>>> >> > >