Return-Path: Received: from mtain-mh02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-mh02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.96.214]) by air-db08.mail.aol.com (v129.10) with ESMTP id MAILINDB084-869c4dc2e99728f; Thu, 05 May 2011 14:16:55 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mh02.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 8D70F3800010E; Thu, 5 May 2011 14:16:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1QI34k-0005Oy-7O for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 May 2011 19:14:58 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1QI34j-0005Op-Jm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 May 2011 19:14:57 +0100 Received: from relay2.uni-heidelberg.de ([129.206.210.211]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1QI34i-0007iE-Aj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 May 2011 19:14:57 +0100 Received: from ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (cyrus-portal.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.176]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p45IEse2025188 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 5 May 2011 20:14:55 +0200 Received: from extmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (extmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.140]) by ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p45IEsol006676 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 5 May 2011 20:14:54 +0200 Received: from [129.206.205.199] (vpn205-199.rzuser.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.205.199]) by extmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.4/8.13.1) with ESMTP id p45IEpFa007797 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 5 May 2011 20:14:53 +0200 Message-ID: <4DC2E927.3040508@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> Date: Thu, 05 May 2011 20:15:03 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Stefan_Sch=E4fer?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.1.11) Gecko/20100711 Thunderbird/3.0.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <4DC2C1B6.4050506@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Score: 1.4 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD=1.426 Subject: Re: LF: QRSS30 QRPp beacon approx 137.770kHz - reports appreciated Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------080307070601040206080000" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TITLE_EMPTY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d60d64dc2e9932330 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --------------080307070601040206080000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de id p45IEse2025188 Hello Roger, You may put the circuit in a waterproof plastic bag and put in the the=20 center of a water filled backet. Then it is sourrounded by a high=20 thermal capacity and should drift much slower :-) Shouldn't be a problem= =20 for a QRP device... 73, Stefan/DK7FC Am 05.05.2011 18:21, schrieb Roger Lapthorn: > Hi Stefan (et al) > > Using the readout I have (nearest 10Hz on my FT817 and IC703) it is=20 > very close to 137.770kHz by zero beating the signal. It would be=20 > helpful to get a semi-local with accurate frequency calibration to=20 > confirm the exact frequency. I may try measuring the offset from one=20 > of the strong commercial signals and see if I can get a closer figure=20 > although I am going away for a week so this will have to wait until I=20 > get back. > > QRSS60 would be too wobbly with the crystal/divider arrangement I=20 > currently have. Even QRSS30 was marginal (wobbly) with G3WCB and=20 > PA3CPM. At the moment the beacon board is just sitting on the desk in=20 > the open air and I suspect the crystal frequency moves a few Hz=20 > (before division) as I wave my arms typing this. There is also=20 > temperature drift as the PA keys on. All can be much improved. > > F1AFJ is not in the best direction for the loop antenna, but I am an=20 > optimist. > > 73s > Roger G3XBM > > > 2011/5/5 Stefan Sch=E4fer > > > Hello Roger, > > What means close? Is it above 770 so i am looking for you :-) > Maybe the first RX stations can confirm the actual frequency, if > unknown so far. > > 73, GL, Stefan > > PS: QRSS60 would be more useful for all the grabbers. I see a goog > chance that you can appear at F1AFJ! > > > Am 05.05.2011 15:27, schrieb Roger Lapthorn: >> My QRSS30 50uW beacon *XBM* (space then G3XBM at 10wpm) is now >> active on its new frequency close to 137.770kHz until 2300z this >> evening. As always, reports and screen shots would be very much >> appreciated. >> >> If trying to copy it, very best of luck. >> >> 73s >> Roger G3XBM >> >> --=20 >> http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ >> http://www.g3xbm.co.uk >> http://www.youtube.com/user/g3xbm >> https://sites.google.com/site/sub9khz/ >> > > > > --=20 > http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ > http://www.g3xbm.co.uk > http://www.youtube.com/user/g3xbm > https://sites.google.com/site/sub9khz/ > --------------080307070601040206080000 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Roger,

You may put the circuit in a waterproof plastic bag and put in the the center of a water filled backet. Then it is sourrounded by a high thermal capacity and should drift much slower :-) Shouldn't be a problem for a QRP device...

73, Stefan/DK7FC

Am 05.05.2011 18:21, schrieb Roger Lapthorn:
Hi Stefan (et al)

Using the readout I have (nearest 10Hz on my FT817 and IC703) it is very close to 137.770kHz by zero beating the signal. It would be helpful to get a semi-local with accurate frequency calibration to confirm the exact frequency. I may try measuring the offset from one of the strong commercial signals and see if I can get a closer figure although I am going away for a week so this will have to wait until I get back.

QRSS60 would be too wobbly with the crystal/divider arrangement I currently have. Even QRSS30 was marginal (wobbly) with G3WCB and PA3CPM. At the moment the beacon board is just sitting on the desk in the open air and I suspect the crystal frequency moves a few Hz (before division) as I wave my arms typing this. There is also temperature drift as the PA keys on. All can be much improved.

F1AFJ is not in the best direction for the loop antenna, but I am an optimist.

73s
Roger G3XBM


2011/5/5 Stefan Schäfer <Stefan.Schaefer@iup.uni-heidelberg.de>
Hello Roger,

What means close? Is it above 770 so i am looking for you :-) Maybe the first RX stations can confirm the actual frequency, if unknown so far.

73, GL, Stefan

PS: QRSS60 would be more useful for all the grabbers. I see a goog chance that you can appear at F1AFJ!


Am 05.05.2011 15:27, schrieb Roger Lapthorn:
My QRSS30 50uW beacon XBM (space then G3XBM at 10wpm) is now active on its new frequency close to 137.770kHz until 2300z this evening. As always, reports and screen shots would be very much appreciated.

If trying to copy it, very best of luck.

73s
Roger G3XBM

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