Return-Path: Received: from mtain-mj02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-mj02.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.21.164.86]) by air-mc07.mail.aol.com (v129.10) with ESMTP id MAILINMC071-a97b4dc2a58a305; Thu, 05 May 2011 09:26:34 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mj02.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 2F478380000A1; Thu, 5 May 2011 09:26:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1QHyMp-0003Cc-1n for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 May 2011 14:13:19 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1QHyMo-0003CO-Iw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 May 2011 14:13:18 +0100 Received: from out1.ip03ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.239]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1QHyMm-00027z-Oe for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 May 2011 14:13:18 +0100 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApIBAAmiwk0CZMzj/2dsb2JhbAAMglWBb9cCkTOFBoEBBIImkWSKEA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.64,319,1301871600"; d="scan'208,217";a="345880177" Received: from unknown (HELO [192.168.2.4]) ([2.100.204.227]) by out1.ip03ir2.opaltelecom.net with ESMTP; 05 May 2011 14:13:09 +0100 Message-ID: <4DC2A264.5050606@talktalk.net> Date: Thu, 05 May 2011 14:13:08 +0100 From: qrss User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <4DC28736.5070405@talktalk.net> <8CDD93ACCC1EFE6-153C-39E0A@Webmail-d111.sysops.aol.com> In-Reply-To: <8CDD93ACCC1EFE6-153C-39E0A@Webmail-d111.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Score: 1.4 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD=1.426 Subject: Re: ELF: Zevs Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------070200070208030802040807" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039400c89a44dc2a5872832 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --------------070200070208030802040807 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Marcus Many thanks, I saw the dashes but could not imagine they belonged to=20 ZEVS, the shift is greater than expected and didn't fit in with the=20 message format I had seen described. Add to that some short spikes from=20 50Hz around that time and the inexperienced ignore the evidence. Considering I am using a 'Stefan' (TM) un-modded probe (I was looking at= =20 the level of attenuation of the filter last night) it is truly amazing. 73 Eddie On 05/05/2011 13:55, Markus Vester wrote: > Hi Eddie, > this is a very nice observation! Before the constant carrier started=20 > at 9:30, there was a message consisting of several five-minute dashes=20 > between 82 and 83 Hz, well visible on your grabber. > Best 73, > Markus > > -----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung----- > Von: qrss > An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Verschickt: Do., 5. Mai. 2011, 13:17 > Thema: LF: ELF Zevs > > Stefan LF > > Today, early morning was so quiet on VLF that I thought that my ELF=20 > SpecLab RX I was running yesterday was playing up, I started a second=20 > RX with a faster sample rate, which is on my Grabber now. > > Once both were set up I took a look for ZEVS. See zevs1.jpg from the=20 > first RX. Maybe the signal came up in strength at 09.30 for 1 Hour the= =20 > frequency was spot on 82Hz, the readout of the cross hairs can be=20 > slightly above or below not correct. > Checking the second RX see zevs2.jpg it looks more like it switched on= =20 > at 09.30 for 1 hour precisely, this time I settled the cross hairs at=20 > the higher readout. > > 73 Eddie G3ZJO > > Disclaimer. This is NOT Amateur Radio, a straight line on the exact=20 > frequency is no proof that the carrier belongs to ZEVS ....blah blah=20 > YAWN.>:o > --------------070200070208030802040807 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Marcus

Many thanks, I saw the dashes but could not imagine they belonged to ZEVS, the shift is greater than expected and didn't fit in with the message format I had seen described. Add to that some short spikes from 50Hz around that time and the inexperienced ignore the evidence.

Considering I am using a 'Stefan' (TM) un-modded probe (I was looking at the level of attenuation of the filter last night) it is truly amazing.

73 Eddie=C2=A0

On 05/05/2011 13:55, Markus Vester wrote:
Hi Eddie,
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this is a very nice observation! Before the constant carrier=C2=A0started at 9:30, there=C2=A0was a=C2=A0message=C2= =A0consisting of several five-minute dashes between 82 and 83 Hz, well visible on your grabber.
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Best 73,
Markus

-----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung-----
Von: qrss <qrss@talktalk.net>
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Verschickt: Do., 5. Mai. 2011, 13:17
Thema: LF: ELF Zevs

Stefan LF=C2=A0
=C2=A0
Today, early morning was so quiet on VLF that I thought that my ELF SpecLab RX I was running yesterday was playing up, I started a second RX with a faster sample rate, which is on my Grabber now.=C2=A0
=C2=A0
Once both were set up I took a look for ZEVS. See zevs1.jpg from the first RX. Maybe the signal came up in strength at 09.30 for 1 Hour the frequency was spot on 82Hz, the readout of the cross hairs can be slightly above or below not correct.=C2=A0
Checking the second RX see zevs2.jpg it looks more like it switched on at 09.30 for 1 hour precisely, this time I settled the cross hairs at the higher readout.=C2=A0
=C2=A0
73 Eddie G3ZJO=C2=A0
=C2=A0
Disclaimer. This is NOT Amateur Radio, a straight line on the exact frequency is no proof that the carrier belongs to ZEVS ....blah blah YAWN.>:o=C2=A0
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