Return-Path: Received: from mtain-dj05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-dj05.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.19.187.141]) by air-md03.mail.aol.com (v129.10) with ESMTP id MAILINMD034-8b7f4dc17f35230; Wed, 04 May 2011 12:30:45 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dj05.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 15C7F3800011F; Wed, 4 May 2011 12:30:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1QHewZ-0007ba-Cr for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 May 2011 17:28:55 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1QHewY-0007bR-VF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 May 2011 17:28:54 +0100 Received: from relay.uni-heidelberg.de ([129.206.100.212]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1QHewW-0006Qb-NZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 May 2011 17:28:54 +0100 Received: from freitag.iup.uni-heidelberg.de (freitag.iup.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.29.204]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id p44GSpQb023459 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 18:28:51 +0200 Received: from [129.206.22.206] (pc206.iup.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.22.206]) by freitag.iup.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.11.20060308/8.11.2) with ESMTP id p44GSpxt019788 for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 18:28:51 +0200 Message-ID: <4DC17E69.7060208@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 18:27:21 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Stefan_Sch=E4fer?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <4DC0E8DA.4070402@talktalk.net> <4DC13500.4070702@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <4DC14F71.9050600@talktalk.net> In-Reply-To: <4DC14F71.9050600@talktalk.net> X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by relay.uni-heidelberg.de id p44GSpQb023459 X-Spam-Score: 1.4 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD=1.426 Subject: Re: LF: G3ZJO grabber Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039cdbc9d0a4dc17f2c2df0 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Eddie, Well, your noise floor below 5 kHz seems to look much better than here.=20 I started some ULF tests last year but have (temporarely!) stopped due=20 to the bad SNR and other more important projects. If you have some FETs=20 left, why not build a ELF probe? In a first thought, i would remove the=20 HPF and increase the C values of the LPF by a factor 30, to get a cut=20 off frequency of about 500 Hz. But there are existing designs which may=20 work better, no idea. 73 and tell us if you got ZEVS! Stefan Am 04.05.2011 15:06, schrieb qrss: > Hello Stefan > > I was prompted to take a look 'down low' a couple of weeks ago when=20 > SM5LE said, look 'Schumann resonances'. You will be surprised that I=20 > am using your E-Probe, unmodified. I wasn't expecting to see much so I= =20 > was surprised by the results. > Have I seen Schumann resonances? I am not going to say, proof needs=20 > time of observation. > > Information about the signals and phenomena down there is scarce, I=20 > have heard mention of 90Hz for submarine comms so many thanks for the=20 > link I have removed my LPF and shifted the window up to take a look on= =20 > 82Hz. > > EDIT > Carrier at 80.2Hz, 75.2Hz and 64.24Hz which would seem to be a=20 > harmonic of the 32Hz and likewise the 16Hz a sub harmonic of 32Hz. > > My searches for information have certainly taken me to Renato's page,=20 > I was showing a link to his site as a 8.9kHz Grabber, since looking at= =20 > his site I have moved him into a Link class of his own. > > There have been questions about the pulses of interference at ULF.=20 > When we look at our VLF Wide displays the Sferics seem to peter out=20 > around 3kHz, (your filter is doing its job). However I have used the=20 > 0....50Hz view to prove to my own satisfaction that Sferics are still=20 > going strong down to 0Hz. Probably removing the 3kHz cut of would=20 > cause havoc down there. > > There are several carriers of unknown origin, maybe due to my urban=20 > location which I can investigate. Any thoughts of what runs at 32Hz=20 > would be welcome, I am pretty sure it comes down from the antenna.=20 > Well, when there are no tests on 8.9kHz I can keep interested. > > 73 Eddie > > On 04/05/2011 12:14, Stefan Sch=E4fer wrote: >> Hello Eddie, VLF, >> >> Your additional grabber windows are interesting. Remembers me to the=20 >> site of Renato Romero ;-) >> What antenna do you use for displaying the range of 0...50 Hz? My=20 >> probe circuit has a high pass filter with an edge frequency of about=20 >> 3 kHz. So if your QRM below 3 kHz is not to strong, you may remove=20 >> that and get better signals on ELF. Have you ever received the ZEVS=20 >> at 82 Hz? http://www.vlf.it/zevs/zevs.htm >> >> 73, Stefan/DK7FC >> >> >