Return-Path: Received: from mtain-dh04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-dh04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.65.24]) by air-md01.mail.aol.com (v129.10) with ESMTP id MAILINMD011-8b744dbdbeaecf; Sun, 01 May 2011 16:12:30 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dh04.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 05E5538000086; Sun, 1 May 2011 16:12:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1QGczO-0004wT-2K for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 May 2011 21:11:34 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1QGczN-0004wK-I3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 May 2011 21:11:33 +0100 Received: from defout.telus.net ([204.209.205.13]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1QGczK-0006IR-Mi for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 May 2011 21:11:33 +0100 Received: from edmwcm03 ([204.209.205.13]) by priv-edmwes25.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.8.01.03.00 201-2260-125-20100507) with ESMTP id <20110501201128.QNUO16923.priv-edmwes25.telusplanet.net@edmwcm03> for ; Sun, 1 May 2011 14:11:28 -0600 Received: from [192.168.1.115] ([75.157.142.115]) by edmwcm03 with bizsmtp id eLBT1g0142Vbb3f01LBTdx; Sun, 01 May 2011 14:11:28 -0600 X-Telus-Outbound-IP: 75.157.142.115 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=XjyP0FUr7eD/2pVJiNGVQeBvpiXA+E14TGeqJBqhVXk= c=1 sm=2 a=PFWxWM63tqYA:10 a=VMzPyYbOJk8A:10 a=LGgl8L9ij00A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=aatUQebYAAAA:8 a=6U8N6pyoCZtLtKZ_Uy8A:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=rBKJJ2Jc0C4A:10 Message-ID: <4DBDBE6F.8090606@telus.net> Date: Sun, 01 May 2011 13:11:27 -0700 From: Scott Tilley User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <4DBD9AB1.1000201@telus.net> <86212C3D-A6C9-486D-99BF-AD52649BA8D0@gmail.com> <4DBDB8F8.8060304@telus.net> In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Score: 1.7 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276,RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD=1.426 Subject: Re: LF: Continued VE7TIL LF grabber outage... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS, MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d41184dbdbeac21ff X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Roger With probes with 60' base and my 1m square portable loop resonated on 8970 about 10km. 73 Scott On 5/1/2011 1:03 PM, Roger Lapthorn wrote: > Hi Scott > > I'm wondering how far up/down the coast a signal can be detected with a similar electrode probe pair (one in the water and one on land)? Alternatively looking for the signal along the shoreline with a horizontal loop or E-field probe? Could be an interesting test. > > 73s > Roger G3XBM > > Via my 2.4GHz handheld (iPod Touch 4g) > > On 1 May 2011, at 20:48, Scott Tilley wrote: > >> Hi Roger >> >> The closest electrode to the ocean is feeding into a creek that itself feeds into the ocean. This electrode is<75m from the salt water. The other electrode is about 0.5km inland at my house. >> >> Within about 2-3km of the setup I can run PSK250 with good SNR and near perfect copy with on about 30W feed into the antenna. Once outside this range things degrade rapidly... >> >> Placing an electrode into the salt water won't last too long with the beachcombers, dogs and electrofobes passing by etc. >> >> 73 Scott >> >> >> On 5/1/2011 10:47 AM, Roger Lapthorn wrote: >>> Scott >>> >>> How close to the ocean are the electrodes in the earth mode tests? Can you try with one in the ocean and one some way inland? >>> >>> 73s >>> Roger G3XBM >>> >>> Via my 2.4GHz handheld (iPod Touch 4g) >>> >>> On 1 May 2011, at 18:38, Scott Tilley wrote: >>> >>>> Hi All >>>> >>>> The VE7TIL 2200m grabber will remain off for another week or so. This is do to a hardware failure in a wide band amplifier in the the DDS system. I'm waiting for some replacement parts as my efforts to make repairs with parts on hand were less than satisfactory. >>>> >>>> I apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused users. >>>> >>>> However, by the grabber returns to operation it will be augmented by a new VLF grabber page. I just finished installing the loop in the garden and it is working wonderfully. I spent the evening last night listening to tweeks/atmospherics and comparing my results on the VLF transmissions with that of Laurence KL7UK in AK... >>>> >>>> Work on preparing a 8970 test transmission into my LF loop continues and I expect to have the time to perform QRP tests later in May. Earth mode testing continues and so far best DX has been about 10km. Interestingly, the best path seems to be along the shore of ocean here. Inland propagation over the poor rocky ground here does not penetrate very far. >>>> >>>> 73 Scott >>>> VE7TIL >>>> >>>> >>>> >> >