Return-Path: Received: from mtain-dh04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-dh04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.65.24]) by air-dd05.mail.aol.com (v129.10) with ESMTP id MAILINDD052-86334dc3aa6439b; Fri, 06 May 2011 03:59:32 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dh04.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 21F7B380000A2; Fri, 6 May 2011 03:59:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1QIFv8-0000LW-4U for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 May 2011 08:57:54 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1QIFv7-0000LN-Fl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 May 2011 08:57:53 +0100 Received: from out1.ip01ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.237]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1QIFv4-0004Ty-TG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 May 2011 08:57:53 +0100 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AmYBALCow01Ok8nr/2dsb2JhbACCZJEqA4QKjid3xSOGCQSCKJFtihQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.64,325,1301871600"; d="scan'208,217";a="351584460" Received: from unknown (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([78.147.201.235]) by out1.ip01ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 06 May 2011 08:57:43 +0100 Message-ID: <002501cc0bc3$44aa6e10$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <37ab501b3c5848b7b5eebd9a1d099f3c@kabelmail.de> Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 08:57:37 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: Re: VLF: DJ8WX Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0022_01CC0BCB.A5FC6530" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d41184dc3aa6207d0 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none ------=_NextPart_000_0022_01CC0BCB.A5FC6530 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Uwe Go for BOTH ie QRO es Big Antenna =3D Arm chair copy for the RX opera= tor. mal/g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: uwe-jannsen@kabelmail.de=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 9:07 PM Subject: Re: Re: VLF: DJ8WX Hi Mal, instead of QRO I would prefer a more effectiv antenna. I feel the day will come.=20 GL Uwe/dj8wx ----------------------------------------------------------------------= -------- Von: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Gesendet: 05.05.2011 18:35 An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Betreff: Re: VLF: DJ8WX ----------------------------------------------------------------------= -------- Uwe I can see u mean business with plenty of QRO, this should be the aim= for all LF operators to avoid eye strain and ear ache at the RX end de g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: uwe-jannsen@kabelmail.de=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 6:18 PM Subject: Re: VLF: DJ8WX Hi Stefan, The stn was on the air from yesterday 1442UTC until today 0856UTC and sporadic ZOA in mode QRS30. I didnt measure the PA output and I didnt measure the aerial curre= nt.=20 matching coils and PA are located in a shed at abt 90m from the= shack. the shed is shut. the key is somewhere hidden. but Im doing something else: Im trying to meassure the FS using ca= librated aerial and RX (ESH3). but until now the noise makes the results problematic. so I have to increase the output pwr step by step (day by day). old days max pwr is not reached today. I estimate todays output pw= r of 450W.=20 the max would be 750W. 750W is the limit because otherwise (751W) my XYL would agn shr= iek when touching her metal garden tools. Oh horror: neighbors boy climbed our fence and asked my wife if th= e fence wire is electric. No, she said, it isnt. Secretly I connected a phasing tester to the fence wire: yes, it= was (electric). GL Uwe/dj8wx/jo43sv ----------------------------------------------------------------------= ------ Von: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Gesendet: 05.05.2011 12:52 An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Betreff: VLF: DJ8WX ----------------------------------------------------------------------= ------ VLF, Today DJ8WX is as strong as before (March 2011). About 20 dB SNR= in 47=20 uHz and traces in the 600-window. Uwe, what is yout TX power and antenna current? What does your wif= e=20 think about that? :-) 73, Stefan/DK7FC ------=_NextPart_000_0022_01CC0BCB.A5FC6530 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Uwe
Go for BOTH  ie QRO es Big Antenna= =3D Arm chair=20 copy for the RX operator.
 
mal/g3kev
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011= 9:07=20 PM
Subject: Re: Re: VLF: DJ8WX

H= i=20 Mal,

instead of QRO I would prefer a more effectiv antenna.I feel=20 the day will come.

GL
Uwe/dj8wx
Von: rsgb_lf_grou= p@blacksheep.org
Gesendet:=20 05.05.2011 18:35
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Betreff:=20 Re: VLF: DJ8WX

Uwe
I can see u mean business wi= th plenty of=20 QRO, this should be the aim for all LF operators to avoid eye strain= =20 and ear ache at the RX end
de g3kev
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday,= May 05, 2011=20 6:18 PM
Subject: Re: VLF:= DJ8WX


Hi Stefan,

 

The stn was on the air from yesterday 1442UTC unt= il today=20 0856UTC

and sporadic ZOA in mode=20 QRS30.


I didnt measure the PA output and I didnt mea= sure the=20 aerial current.
matching coils and PA  are located in a= shed at abt=20 90m from the shack.
the shed is  shut. the key is somewher= e=20 hidden.

but Im doing something else: Im trying to meassure= the FS=20 using calibrated aerial and RX (ESH3).
but until now the noise= makes the=20 results problematic.
so I have to increase the output pwr step= by step=20 (day by day).
old days max pwr is not reached today. I estimate= todays=20 output pwr of 450W.

the max would be=20 750W.

750W is the  limit because otherwise (751W)=  my=20 XYL would  agn shriek when touching her metal garden=20 tools.

 

Oh horror: neighbors boy climbed our fence and as= ked my=20 wife if the fence wire is electric. No, she said, it=20 isnt.

Secretly I connected a phasing tester to the fenc= e wire:=20 yes, it was (electric).

 

GL

Uwe/dj8wx/jo43sv

 

 






Von: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Gesendet: 05.05.2011 12:52An:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Betreff: VLF: DJ8WX

VLF,

Today DJ8WX is as strong as before (March 2011).= About 20 dB=20 SNR in 47
uHz and traces in the 600-window.

Uwe, what= is yout TX=20 power and antenna current? What does your wife
think about tha= t?=20 :-)

73,=20 Stefan/DK7FC
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